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06-23-2008 , 06:39 PM

recallme

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,650

Villain raised me off two hands yet, both were 3bet pots. Once on the flop in the other hand on the turn after a second barrel.
He was 30/22 over 50 hands

Poker Stars $10/$20 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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BTN: $2210.00
Hero (SB): $2444.00
BB: $7271.50
CO: $1888.00

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 3

2 folds, Hero raises to $60, BB calls $40

Flop: ($120.00) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $90, BB calls $90

Turn: ($300.00) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $220, BB raises to $600,

What`s my turn plan? Is my bet too small?

06-23-2008 , 06:41 PM

isipil

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,178

your turn plan is clearly folding, why do you even ask? you have too shallow stack to make a 8 outer fishing profitable

06-23-2008 , 07:45 PM

Golden

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 429

Quote:

Originally Posted by isipil

your turn plan is clearly folding, why do you even ask? you have too shallow stack to make a 8 outer fishing profitable

He's got roughly 1700 left if he calls the turn, that's plenty to justify this call, since I would expect villain to bet 100% of rivers with his line.

06-23-2008 , 10:56 PM

isipil

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,178

less than 20% to hit the straight on the river, he should winning 2000 everytime he calls the 400 to make the call + ev (i consider his chance of winning when he doesnt hit near to zero since villian should get disconnected to fold to a river push

06-23-2008 , 10:57 PM

isipil

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,178

and, 4 of the 8 outs would probably slow villian from puttin more money in the pott

06-23-2008 , 11:07 PM

btmagnetw

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,486

Quote:

Originally Posted by isipil

and, 4 of the 8 outs would probably slow villian from puttin more money in the pott

what are you putting the villain on to say this? KQ?

06-23-2008 , 11:23 PM

Shizzle12345

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,574

calling sucks badly here, its either a shove or fold, and without a good read its better to fold.

06-23-2008 , 11:52 PM

hiraldo

banned

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 289

he needs to fold roughly 50% of the time to make a turn shove profitable fwiw. he also needs to be betting 1200 or greater on river about 50% of the time to show a profit just calling (which I think he prob does).

This does not account for the small chance he has 57 and u both hit the 6

06-24-2008 , 01:40 AM

fringsrache

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,859

hm... I wonder if he views u as "very aggro"?!?!

id prolly shove here, bc I am annoyed by villain, but thats obv not the greatest reasoning...

06-24-2008 , 01:49 AM

#10

hiraldo

banned

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 289

Quote:

Originally Posted by fringsrache

hm... I wonder if he views u as "very aggro"?!?!

id prolly shove here, bc I am annoyed by villain, but thats obv not the greatest reasoning...

i think its pretty flawless

06-24-2008 , 02:02 AM

#11

Shizzle12345

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,574

i generally like to shove tho, when i think he plays pretty aggro and laggy in general but hasnt done much yet against me early in a session. its more likley theyr bluffing, and you get more credit.

06-24-2008 , 07:30 AM

#12

Golden

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 429

Quote:

Originally Posted by isipil

Okay on turn, after his raise there's ~1300 in the pot. Only need 700 from him on river to make this +ev. Read the thread wrong first time, thought you were the aggressive one, not your opponent. Yeah shove sounds good.

06-29-2008 , 11:49 PM

#13

backrhodes14

adept

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,058

i don't like the turn bet tbh....aggro fishies aren't going anywhere...keep the pot small til you know you've got them...then pounce. easy fold now.

06-30-2008 , 02:16 AM

#14

King Of Grind

banned

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 978

I like C/R a lot more on this turn esp against an aggro villain

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