40/80 all streets - Page 3 - High Stakes Poker Pot Limit and No Limit

Two Plus Two Forums Archived Forums Strategy High Stakes PL/NL

40/80 all streets

...

Page 3 of 4

1 2 3 4

Page 3 of 4

1 2 3 4

09-21-2010 , 04:09 PM

#51

FullTiltIronMan

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 108

I wouldn't fold the river, good move.

He probably doesn't have a set, so just hope he didn't flop the straight.

But I think you're good this hand. Post the results soon?

09-21-2010 , 11:44 PM

#52

NxtWrldChamp

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 9,082

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdog

The effective stacks are 50bb, we need at least 60bb to setmine, we're OOP and the BB can squeeze behind us even if we do flat, so folding looks good.

3betting, no way, we arent nearly deep enough.

This is 50bb poker. Play tight and solid out of the SB, which doesnt include ducks in a raised pot.

Other than that, I think you played it very well.

Where are you getting 50bb stacks from? Looks like 100bbs to me...

09-22-2010 , 12:04 AM

#53

coxquinn

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,729

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylefrey

BTN: $40,062.75
Hero (SB): $8,997.00
BB: $36,216.75

thats why

09-22-2010 , 12:08 AM

#54

shipit2kg

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,837

Quote:

Originally Posted by coxquinn

thats why

Fail.

09-22-2010 , 10:06 AM

#55

Lefort

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,827

11-14-2010 , 11:32 PM

#56

Grandmaontilt

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 248

Results?

11-15-2010 , 12:02 AM

#57

cicakman

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,229

50bb is the new 112bb

11-15-2010 , 07:13 AM

#58

canoodles

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,033

so much fail itt. nh op, played it perfectly IMO

11-15-2010 , 08:21 AM

#59

topfield

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by WelshChip

i wouldn't fold

11-15-2010 , 08:24 PM

#60

planB_

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,615

Quote:

Originally Posted by chob18

this

Even if 22 or 33 are slightly -ev to call in the SB, calling might still be the better play as part of an overall strategy.

being able to rep 222 can't be a serious argument for calling preflop. its not like our range becomes automatically too weak on 258 boards etc because of the lack of bottom set..

I think 3betting here preflop evertime is -ev, while doing it rarely is marginal and probably the closest option to a fold EV wise. yet, I think its good to have it in you perceived range, so doing it from time to time might be the best for our range and gameplan. I also think that calling is -ev, as we won't realize our potequity nearly as often postflop as we should to show a profit.

11-16-2010 , 12:23 PM

#61

Yoshii

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,401

Quote:

Originally Posted by flash75gordon

does anyone like a c/r all in on turn?

+1, but I am just a micro NLHE grinder.

11-16-2010 , 02:18 PM

#62

MATT111

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,008

Quote:

Originally Posted by coxquinn

oh wow that changes everything and fooled like everyone. call is the only option pre and every street was played fine. nh sorry it didn't win

Wtf is going on in this thread?

11-16-2010 , 04:31 PM

#63

Chipchucker5

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,298

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefort

11-21-2010 , 11:50 AM

#64

7strate7

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 40

silly HSNL
ducks are for ponds

11-26-2010 , 04:28 AM

#65

Bobilovic

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 157

results plz

11-28-2010 , 09:19 PM

#66

quid pro quo

self-banned

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 499

i think theoretically preflop you should be 3-betting to balance your value 3betting range.lsdee,when it comes to equity and absolute hand strength we are never ahead of villians range but if we 3-bet, our range of hands we will 3-bet is,don't know why you think we are ahead preflop,i agree with the rest of your post.

i think its obvious to anyone that plays nlh why you should 3-bet this pre and never call a raise oop or call a 3-bet even in position.

as played either you lost the pot or villian had a go at you for how you played the hand,don't really see any faults in you play post.

Last edited by quid pro quo; 11-28-2010 at 09:27 PM.

11-30-2010 , 11:46 PM

#67

completedegenlol

banned

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipchucker5

12-01-2010 , 12:18 AM

#68

J_V

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,875

God you fish never agree on anything.

12-03-2010 , 09:56 PM

#69

jc1418

adept

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 785

junglemans post confuses me. Fwf's helps clear some of it up. Do you guys rarely flat 22 hu? Is it more plausible to flat 22 if you sometimes trap the BB by flatting a larger hand in the sb so that you can backshove it? Then once you do that you can add in 22 as well

12-04-2010 , 04:36 AM

#70

raptor517

2013 November Nine

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 9,749

I am with the sauce on this one for a fold PF, but I don't know how to play NL anymore. As for how it was played, if we do a sit down and think about what he can have, I don't get the impression there are very many bluffs, especially with his turn sizing. Aaaaaand how many value hands do we beat here? Raptor nit zomg but this might be a river fold, though raptornitzomg just fold pf, though 3 bet is better than call imo.

12-04-2010 , 05:31 AM

#71

tcorbin16

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,759

if raptor says fold you should prob just snap fold.

12-04-2010 , 09:00 AM

#72

durrrr

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,024

howd u get into french laundry? standard make a resi 1 month in advance jazz?

edit: wow weird browser aids on gf's comp never had this thread open jus scrolled down too far from hsnl **** thread, wtf?