The real blinds were 20-40 Euros and 80 straddle in he ACF in Paris. villain was Jan Boubli, or the guy who finished second to David Benyamine in the ACF WPT season three. He was playing extremely aggressively and was possibly on tilt. It was obvious also that he was making moves very often on scare cards no matter what the board texture or action. The effective stack sizes were close to 5,000

Was dealt 76532 one suit on the straddle. He limped and i potted, he flatted.
Flop 974 rainbow. (i had only one backdoor) He checked i bet 400 and he potted 1680.

I flatted (???) Turn brought the 2d bringing a diamond flush draw (which i dont have) but also gives me two pair for a possible best hand and blockers. He shoved for almost full pot I???????

If I understand the rules correctly (just plain plo but you get 5 cards instead of 4) 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, A and diamonds are probably outs if you're not good right now... I don't see how you can even consider a fold getting 2:1.

shove flop, as played call

About the flop, we're behind any valuehands or bigger wraps so I'm not so sure we should be jamming it. The turn I would just lead and stick it in as we're probably not looking at air here so you might as well try to get the guy to fold something that has equity rather than c/c.

game is basically shortstacked 60 BB. if getting it in otf is wrong he should a) not raise pre or b) check behind otf. but as played with these stacksizes etc. i cant see anything else then shoving the flop. if you call and a complete blank drops, do you wanna fold the turn?

The problem is i dont have diamonds. The problem is i have only three clean outs to the nuts, however i am wondering if we categorize his hand ranges to wraps with possible fd or just flat out top set, middle set whether we have the odds to call.

It might be a simple math problem but i am not sure

I dont even get to turn here.

dont ever raise a hand this weak in 5 card plo. fold turn and fold flop. chk behind flop

you like getting it in with bottom pair with a 10 high flush draw in omaha too?

How does the straddle work HU? Is it basically just 40E/80E with the SB/BB reversed like Stars used to have it?

I think you gotta fold the flop.
Hands like two pair gutter, set gutter, higher wrap are gonna have you crushed.
But once you get to the turn it seems like you are better than 33% against his shoving range...

Check flop especially if he's playing very aggro.

Bah I misread. Forget everything I said. I see why it's a tough spot now

Flop is vvvv standard check back.

Omaha beast ITT

6 card plo 2 flop is the king of games

Re-pot and run it 4 times.

don't forget to scoop all four pots.

to the people advocating a shove on the flop, could you please give your reasoning for this? i'm in the check behind camp so i don't really know what arguments there are for shoving.

Call turn now that you've gotten there.

Basically the bb is the button. So even with a mediocre hand like mine and the way he was playing it was almost always profitable to raise my button whenever he limped, and the majority of the time when i c bet (70-80%) he would fold.

Also i have 6 clean outs to the nuts and not three like i previously stated. May i also add he insta shoved the blank turn without even checking for a fd.....

you just have to fold i think. problem is if he has a set its really quite likely for him to have atleast one of your straight cards nutted so you just wont be 33pct. best case scenario is you have 17 outs, but worst case is 3, and your avg is probably around 7 and you need your avg to be 13. also the thing about him not checking for fd's makes a set more likely or a top2+wrap type hand, plus even if he didnt check, with you having no diamonds, im not sure what the math is but i imagine he is going to have them prob more than 20pct of the time just by chance.

lololol

To all those who say hold'em will never die...

Omaha will never ever ever everrrrrrrrrrrrr die!!

May i also add additional info which makes my decision less black and white. This player would NOT have limped hands that can make top two with wraps, and possibly one pair with a good wrap. He would have definitely raised those himself pre given the way he was playing. This leaves having top or middle set with a flush draw as the worst case scenario.