Here's the situation. I was a bit tilted and called a regular to play 25-50hu and he accepted (not actually above my limit, but I dont play a ton of 25-50 deep).

So he might know Im tilted by calling him out on one of his ring tables

Now we start playing. I get 88, AQ and TT and I 4bet all 3 of them to 1600$ and he folds all 3 times. Thats inside 10 hands.

Then this one comes

EverestPoker Game #2430959100: Table Chennai-0 - $25.00/$50.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:35:26 - 2007/11/27
Seat 1: Kirbynatorz ($6,123.00)
Seat 2: Cheeseman87 ($5,274.00)
Cheeseman87 posts the small blind of $25.00
Kirbynatorz posts the big blind of $50.00
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Kirbynatorz[9s Ks]
Cheeseman87 raises to $150.00
Kirbynatorz raises to $600.00
Cheeseman87 calls $450.00
*** FLOP *** [7c Kc Kh]
Kirbynatorz bets $675.00
Cheeseman87 calls $675.00
*** TURN *** [7c Kc Kh] [7s]
Kirbynatorz checks
Cheeseman87 checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Kc Kh 7s] [4s]
Kirbynatorz bets $1,985.00
Cheeseman87 calls $1,985.00
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Kirbynatorz shows [9s Ks]
Cheeseman87 mucks
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [7c Kc Kh 7s 4s]
Kirbynatorz collects $6,519.00



Then this one

EverestPoker Game #2430968063: Table Chennai-0 - $25.00/$50.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:37:02 - 2007/11/27
Seat 1: Kirbynatorz ($9,456.00)
Seat 2: Cheeseman87 ($4,925.00)
Cheeseman87 posts the small blind of $25.00
Kirbynatorz posts the big blind of $50.00
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Kirbynatorz[Ac Ah]
Cheeseman87 raises to $150.00
Kirbynatorz raises to $600.00
Cheeseman87 calls $450.00
*** FLOP *** [5c Td 8s]
Kirbynatorz bets $1,000.00
Cheeseman87 calls $1,000.00
*** TURN *** [5c Td 8s] [8h]
Kirbynatorz bets $7,856.00 and is all-in
Cheeseman87 folds
Uncalled bet of $7,856.00 returned to Kirbynatorz
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Kirbynatorz mucks
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [5c Td 8s 8h ]
Kirbynatorz collects $3,199.00



So my question is more about the AA hand, I really played like a total maniac and he just saw me 3bet K9 to showdown...

What do you think is the best play on the turn? And what can he possibly have that he's folding on such a brick turn?

Do you think he might have floated QJ/J9 type of hand or do you think he folded a middle pocket pair? He didnt seem to think at all before folding so was CRAI definitely the best play here? Can he even have hands like AK?


For all I know he's a pretty big reraiser himself and can be tricky.


ps: I hate converters

i would pot turn/shove river in the first hand. and i like how you played the second one.

bet 2500 on turn in the first one?

I guess we're hoping he pushes a mid pocket?

i would be hoping he'd call with whatever cheese he actually called with. ace high or mid pocket or whatever.

I haven't played him HU nor do I play much HU at all but at 6max cheeseman spews like crazy. On the turn I'd check it to him to let him shove whatever crappy hand he has.

i like the turn chk on hand one against a spewer.

without a fd on board, i think i'd check the turn in the AA hand. he's got 77 a lot

oh, i'd def check the turn in both if he's a spewer. I thought he was a tough tag regular from the OP description...

i still would against a tough tag i think.

i think you're much more likely to get him to put another bet (or more) in the pot by chking the turn and leading the river, or if he bets, just call and check the river. i just dont see a non-tilted player making a huge move here after we bet with 88/ace hi/air.

im not looking for a huge 'move' just a big call. and since we've been running him over and it's a good BS board...

If we didn't have a crappy image I might check turn in hand 1 but I like 3 barreling as is

i never said he was solid or tight, I said he reraised a lot, was kind of a regular and could be tricky.


On the 2nd hand, if you put him on a middle pocket like 7s like we said. You think he's more likely to call a turn value bet or a river value bet?

(knowing scare cards can come)

Cheeseman is much more likely to make a crazy shove than to make a very thin call.

first one is fine, second one i would bet like 1200 or check.