This was a hand from earlier this weekend on Party. There were 5 full games running but not that great.

Party 25/50 game 6 players:
Effective stacks around 6000 - 6500 each


UTG+1 opens to 150, I raise to 525 from the button with 1010 he is the only caller.

Flop K 6 2

I bet 750 he calls pretty quick.

Turn Q (K 2 Q)

He checks I check.

River Q (K 6 2 Q Q)


He checks I bet $ 1100.....

He basically calls preflop 3bets about 80 - 90% of the time and plays pretty aggro postflop. Do I get to see a call from KJ to often here? Would things change if I had JJ or 99? He probably sees me as a standard TAG although we don't have much history.

I don't 3b PF against 90% of people.

As played...Without good reads I find it hard to give an answer as there are some people who will call here with 33-99 but against a standard TAG I'm thinking too thin.

I'm not a big fan just because he could decide to turn his 33-99 hand into a chk raise bluff. I'd just take the showdown unless he is very straightforward and wouldnt spot you value betting thinly here.

Can't see you beeing behind here.

JJ isn't a slowplay hand, and if he is aggro postflop - you would probably face a raise preflop.

My guess is 55-77-88-99, because of the check-call play on the flop on his part. He has no king - cause he would have bet it on the turn, and no Q - for the same reason. The only way you're beat here, is if the ****** have played JJ ******ed imo.

What was he holding btw.

ohrly?

Yeah sounds weird but games really aren't that great. Players like TakeChip and Bullitos also rule there now.

He snapcalled the river with AKo after which my girlfriend asked why I had that confused look on my face.

and you were confused because..?

this is not a reason not to bet - if he check/raises here, it's a pretty easy call... though i don't imagine you'll really ever get check/raised here.

as far as this hand, i'd probably check... i'm betting jj though... i realize that's thin, but i think he shows up with 99, TT, JJ here a lot (and calls with it maybe half the time) and AK he plays this way 50% of the time he has it but calls always, so i think TT is too thin a bet but JJ i would bet.

what if he realize we are betting thinly here ( we need to play a queen or a a king this way too) then adopt by checkshoving AK and some lower pairs as a bluff? doesnt seem like a stretch to me , this line looks alot like either a king for split or JJ,TT trying to get thin value rather than a Queen or AA

I think this is too thin because you 3-bet preflop. His range that he's going to be willing to check the river with is mostly hands that he has clear decisions with. i.e. he feels comfortable playing them vs any action you take...generally when people are in this spot they play very well so I don't think it's worth it

Edit: just noticed the results are up so i cut the post short

feel this 100%, at least the second part, i dont think you can blanketly say, o ez bet call on the river depends a lot on villain imo

Really 50% of the time you think he doesn't 4 bet preflop. Or are you sayig 50% of the time he plays it like that preflop his post flop play is like that? I agree with everyone this is too thin and against a player i respect I would still be afraid to value b jj.

I agree with fslexcduck that TT is too thin here but I would value JJ

I usually go like 725/call, I think it's too thin though and am not a big fan of the pfr. If you think he's going to c/r a good amount of the time then I like it more.

Probably better off checking behind since this is a good spot for the villain to put in a check-raise bluff.

lol like, really

i would honestly be very surprised to see anybody get check/raise bluffed on this river

Happens to me a decent amount of the time vs certain players. Just gotta get the "wtf, mine!" reaction from them.

that's probably because you're never actually playing any hands. you just sit at your own table alone and play no hands while doing so.

What's Takechips SN on party ?

maybe he wants to stake you cos he doesnt play with it anyway right? or maybe he just gets depressed when he plays with his own money .

come on there have to be like 100 more variables here that lead u to a check or bet situation here other than the fact you have JJ and not TT... stuff like what do u think about the opponent, odds of getting CR by air or better hand, what your spidey sense says, etc.... all that has to be more impt than JJ or TT in ur hand

lol sad face

i feel what your saying, but the line has to be drawn somewhere right? why could it not be that after all these factors are considered that is where it falls for duck and co?