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10-12-2009 , 09:36 AM
Last couple of days some 50/100 and 100/200PLO games started popping up so I decided to take a shot (usually play up to 25/50 and occassional 50/100). I started the game with 10K and built up to 27K.
Button is Jinx, SB is very very LAGtard who also plays up to 200/400NL, BB is solid from what I've seen so far.

I'm in CO and open to 700 with K Q J 9

Button calls, SB calls, BB pots, we all call. I'm 90% certain that BB has AAxx here. He has a little less than potbet left. Earlier I saw him reraise preflop and checkfold a J 8 7r flop with 70% of his stack left.

Flop is Q 8 3 with 2 hearts. SB checks, BB predictable shoves for lil'less than pot. I ..... ??? I have over 100BB left and a good thinking player and someone who loves to put the money in act behind me.

I guess calling isn't an option but not 100% certain that shoving is great with the hearts out there (SB won't fold a decent FD with his stack 60BB and BB is the only one who has me covered).

Any advice welcome (even flaming )
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10-12-2009 , 10:20 AM
When you're in a spot that depends 100% on stack sizes, it helps to make the stack sizes somewhat remotely clear.
10-12-2009 , 10:36 AM
Before flop:

SB 45K
BB 13K(ish)
Hero 27K
button 16K
10-12-2009 , 11:29 AM
You have to get this in, given them stack sizes I dont think its close either.
10-12-2009 , 11:38 AM
unless my math is wrong, thers 11200 in the pot going into the flop, and he shoves for 10k~ otf. U are 50/50 against a random AAxx and 30/70 dog if he has AA w/ the fd. u go into the flop w/ 24k~, and only the SB covers. Id iso shove with the $ out there & dont think its really close. the only disaster is if sb has a set or kk with hearts hand.
10-12-2009 , 01:03 PM
I fold. Your outs pretty bad if AA has the FD or someone else calls. Also, it makes a lot of sense for him to 3 bet AKQJ type stuff that your not all that great against.
10-12-2009 , 01:09 PM
snapshove not close at all.. your like 50/50 or slightly worse vs BB range and the dead money is more than enough to make up for the few% of times you get it in almost dead multiway.
10-12-2009 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by greywolf
snapshove not close at all.. your like 50/50 or slightly worse vs BB range and the dead money is more than enough to make up for the few% of times you get it in almost dead multiway.
10-13-2009 , 04:39 PM
Snap shove with info given.

That said, there are villains out there who would not shove here (4 way pot on draw heavy board) without a FD to go with his obvious AA.

If the stacks behind are deeper (~4-6k depending on profiles and whether we got BDFD) the decision gets a lot closer, I probably end up folding.
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