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03-27-2010 , 09:24 AM
Villain is bradford. He's been 3betting a lot (30% I think) and throughout the match, he's snap jammed over my river bets a few times where the action went, turn check, I bet river. I've folded to all of them

Preflop I wasn't really sure about stacking off w/AK 300bbs just because I haven't seen any really loose 5b shoves and what not

I've been floating his flop 3bets a lot and he should probably know that by now, it was pretty obvious.

River, he snapjams



Full Tilt Poker $10/$20 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): $10434.50
BB: $5768.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is BTN/SB with A K
Hero raises to $60, BB raises to $240, Hero calls $180

Flop: ($480.00) 5 5 6 (2 players)
BB bets $280, Hero calls $280

Turn: ($1040.00) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1040.00) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $850, BB raises to $5248 all in, Hero requests TIME
03-27-2010 , 10:20 AM
your value range getting to the river this way seems pretty narrow / strong and since you've had history folding these spots he probably thinks you'll snap him off lighter. fold
03-27-2010 , 10:54 AM
if hes had a history of doing this and youve had a history of folding, this seems like a pretty great spot to keep him honest, just because his value range has to be pretty small (or at least the value range you lose to, but i dunno if he does this with kq ever).

also, obv your hand looks pretty junky and like it would fold almost always.
03-28-2010 , 10:26 AM
should he be expecting you to bet the turn a lot wct? to raise the flop with a 5?

seems like without reads like that he should just bet the turn with all his strong hands

tbh given info i think he has AK reasonably often (like 30-40% of the time?), i'd muck KQ and call AA... dno what to do with AK but i'm leaning towards call
03-28-2010 , 12:00 PM
Yeah I think he'd expect me to bet turn w/all my strong hands as well as bluffs as I've been floating flop a lot
03-28-2010 , 03:50 PM
I can't see him checking this river with the nuts all that often
03-28-2010 , 03:52 PM
yeah normally not, but in this circumstance he might very well think he gets paid off a lot if he checkjams
03-28-2010 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lnternet
I can't see him checking this river with the nuts all that often
Why?
03-28-2010 , 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ansky
Why?
our range has a lot more bluffcatchers than hands that could vbet thinly in it

like if he bets we might very well call Qhi to 6x, but if he checks we hardly ever bet
03-28-2010 , 04:08 PM
well, I think at this point in the match, he has to know that I can and will vbet light, I guess in this context I"d be betting my whole range since his hand looks like crap, at least pair of 6's anyway
03-28-2010 , 04:57 PM
seems like he can have worse for value as well as lots of bluffs
03-28-2010 , 05:51 PM
If he wanted to bluff, why would he go for a check/raise on the river? Surely he knows we're going to check back Ace high and other weak hands.

But on the other han... he probably expects us to snap off a river bet with A-high and better, and a C/R looks a lot stronger... hmm... but this really really feels like he's doing it for value tho
03-28-2010 , 08:09 PM
does he 3bet small pairs?
03-28-2010 , 09:52 PM
yes he 3bets small pairs
03-29-2010 , 12:30 AM
call!!!!
03-30-2010 , 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRANTZ
call!!!!
Yup
03-30-2010 , 02:48 PM
If he's 3b pre a lot as you say, why not 4b pre?
03-30-2010 , 03:48 PM
given your match history (he's snap c/shoved after turn checks and you folded to all) + you're at the top of your range = I'd snap this off pretty quickly
03-30-2010 , 06:48 PM
with your history and how under repped your hand how can we fold? you also have next to no calling range in a vacuum on end.
04-04-2010 , 11:35 AM
Fold. He was obv hoping you bet the turn and now he's trying to maximise his big hand by hoping you bet the river/
04-04-2010 , 12:47 PM
from the description seems like a call

I'm gonna guess AQ
04-04-2010 , 04:38 PM
suuuuuuuuuuuuper easy call imo
04-04-2010 , 09:08 PM
kinda off topic, but i couldnt imagine playing a guy who 3-bet 30% and yet i wasn't comfortable 4betting AK for value.

that said, without a lot of history i think this is a fold, with history i think close but imo prob still a fold.
04-05-2010 , 12:40 AM
it seems you have the exact top of your range against a guy capable of making moves in weird spots. i think you should call but not be excited about it

but more importantly, unless there is some information you have failed to provide it looks like a mega easy turn value bet. You have all the nut hands in your range while his nut combos are heavily discounted so you shouldnt fear a c/r, you need to protect your wide variety of floats, and he has many Ax hands in his range currently that he can call u with. bet!
04-06-2010 , 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nutsinho
but more importantly, unless there is some information you have failed to provide it looks like a mega easy turn value bet!
I don't get this.

      
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