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12-26-2014 , 08:48 PM

Pyha Karu

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When a villain folds 50 percent, you can raise any hand pre right? What about when villain folds to raises 47-48 percent, how much does that change things? Obv depends on if he comes in the pot by 3b or calling, so lets say he does both close to equally which is also quite common.
What about when you are 15 bb deep with a hand like 9 10s? Where is the cutoff point to when you should open raise and when you should limp? Vs a villain who is folding to opens 52 percent should you just always open any two and never limp? What about v who is folding 50 percent, 48 percent?

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12-26-2014 , 09:50 PM

nozz

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You think 2% makes a difference? How accurate is yor data from HUD? How big of a sample u need to consider your data so accurate? 48% or 52% is pretty much the same I thibk.

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12-26-2014 , 10:29 PM

Pyha Karu

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Originally Posted by nozz

You think 2% makes a difference? How accurate is yor data from HUD? How big of a sample u need to consider your data so accurate? 48% or 52% is pretty much the same I thibk.

So you mean you are always raising any two vs 48-52 percent?

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12-26-2014 , 11:16 PM

BitchiBee

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you should limp alot when real shallow, even recs have different ranges at 15 blinds compared to 40+

edit: sry thought this was hu cash forum for some reason, basically I think you sample size vs villains in husngs are too small to make extreme things like 50% fold to btn raise a thing esp since most of that is from him folding prior at the 20bb+ lvls, villains tend to shove alot more when shallow.

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12-27-2014 , 01:22 AM

Pyha Karu

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Im using filters, so its only stats from shallow stacks. How big a sample do you need for adjustments?

Same question though if you are deep. With a large sample, are you still raising ATC vs people who fold to open raises about 47-49 percent of a time?

If they call more than 50 percent, even if its 51 percent, does it automatically mean its not good to open ATC anymore?

Last edited by Pyha Karu; 12-27-2014 at 01:28 AM.

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12-27-2014 , 02:47 AM

BitchiBee

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no if for example someone peels 90%+ folds to cbet 50% and 3bet 5% I would open atc

the more sticky he is postflop, the more he 3bets and the less he folds the tighter you should be in the small blind. And its not like 26o doesn't have any equity postflop, if someone is calling 55% of the time and never 3betting opening atc cannot be bad

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12-27-2014 , 12:05 PM

Pyha Karu

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I meant if you can still exploit villain if he folds to raises 47-49 percent(instead of 50 or more) and otherwise has a solid game.

As in you dont profit instantly pre by raising ATC but with post flop equity added you should still raise ATC vs pretty much anyone
who calls only slightly more than half the hands?

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