*** Ultra Official Daily Volume Graph Thread ***
06-12-2012
, 12:16 AM
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i don't know your reasons for 4 tabling, but in my experience it is almost never a good thing at such low stakes. especially when you have low confidence in your game like you do right now, thinking about every spot and lowering the variance by playing 1 table helps you to stay positive.
also, while games against better opponents usually require more in depth though processes, don't underestimate low stakes games. the average opponent being dumb as wood does not mean you can own them without thinking at all, autopiloting 4 tables or whatever. the extra valuebet against a stationy villain and the herocall when a line doesn't make sense that you can make when you focus on a single opponent make up alot of your winnings in hyperturbos. not to mention preflop adjustments which are really hard to optimize against 4 opponents at the same time.
also, while games against better opponents usually require more in depth though processes, don't underestimate low stakes games. the average opponent being dumb as wood does not mean you can own them without thinking at all, autopiloting 4 tables or whatever. the extra valuebet against a stationy villain and the herocall when a line doesn't make sense that you can make when you focus on a single opponent make up alot of your winnings in hyperturbos. not to mention preflop adjustments which are really hard to optimize against 4 opponents at the same time.
I also know it's an often stated opinion in this forum that people shouldn't multitable the lowest stake, however I think it's exactly the stake people should play when trying to learn how to multitable, I'd never suggest someone who plays say one table of $30s should one day just commit to banging out the games there four at once, it is a dangerous thing to increase tables and imo it's best done in a safe place.
Unfortunately it variance and low ev adjusted win at this lowest stake has indeed knocked my confidence further, that's coming off a horrible run at the $7s that started my whole "learn to multitable" line this past month. I will def be backing off the 4 tables, but going back to one I'd rather not, so long as there isn't too detrimental an effect on my winrate. and that will take time to find out I guess.
Reasons I think I'm much better off playing 2 tables are mainly that I find it very hard to put in volume 1 tabling - there's a chance to take a break after each and every game, not including when some tit makes you wait 30 seconds - and I'm pretty bad at "oh I'll just check that 1 web page between games.. ooh new article!". Playing at least 2, it's much easier to just keep loading as they finish and keep focus. Another reason is kinda similar - I find it much easier to detatch from results playing 2+ tables. Playing only one it is very easy to notice, in fact almost impossible not to notice how many I've won/lost in a row. that's bad, I'd much rather not know. but I find it impossible not to keep track when it's only the one game. playing 2 and constantly loading, it takes a few games but then it's quite easy to not know where I am at for a session, and unless things go real bad there's enough occasional wins or losses frequently that it's quite easy to not keep track, an additional "benefit" is there's another table to look at instead of sweating cards when there's an allin
Lots of words lol tl;dr
06-12-2012
, 03:34 AM
Stake: $60-$30
Tables/Format: 2 Tables, Hyper
Number of Games: 111
HEM Hours: 3.7
Network: Stars
Notes : Second day with the same result.. I knew it will happen after the previous month's incredible upswing
06-12-2012
, 09:28 AM
Stake: $20
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Turbo
Number of Games: 24
Network: Stars
Notes: I havent been posting for awhile, nothing special at 10s, actually Im BE there but playing lots of regs so maybe thats the reason as I feel pretty comfortable about my game. And that's why after getting my rakeback I decided to took shot at 20s. Running good, playing my A game, hope that I'll stay there for some time
06-13-2012
, 12:34 AM
Thought I'd try single tabling once again to see if I was overestimating my comfort with two, missing spots etc. The results:
Stake: $1.50
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Hyper
Number of Games: 90
HEM Hours: 4.1h, approx 6.5 hours real time
Network: Stars
Notes: This is really starting to get to me. I can't believe how bad I must be at this game. Today I played against villains that 2x/called jam with 97o the 1st hand, limp reraise jammed A5o, defended 53o and called down 3 barrels bottom pair, folded to a shove with 0.2bb behind, check raise / call jam with bottom pair no kicker / no draw and all sorts of other idiotic stuff that AFAIK are huge leaks - yet the sum of my leaks must be indeed far worse, given results sucks to be me I guess.
Stake: $1.50
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Hyper
Number of Games: 90
HEM Hours: 4.1h, approx 6.5 hours real time
Network: Stars
Notes: This is really starting to get to me. I can't believe how bad I must be at this game. Today I played against villains that 2x/called jam with 97o the 1st hand, limp reraise jammed A5o, defended 53o and called down 3 barrels bottom pair, folded to a shove with 0.2bb behind, check raise / call jam with bottom pair no kicker / no draw and all sorts of other idiotic stuff that AFAIK are huge leaks - yet the sum of my leaks must be indeed far worse, given results
sucks to be me I guess.
06-13-2012
, 05:36 AM
See what happens when you 1 table
06-13-2012
, 09:25 PM
06-14-2012
, 02:44 AM
Stake: $1.50
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Hyper
Number of Games: 14
HEM Hours: 0.8 hours
Network: Stars
Notes: Didn't play much at all, OK results. Felt I was playing OK. Spent a while experimenting with CamStudio trying to record video to make one of those threads... I do very much like the short video threads. failed so far, ca't get it transcoded to a decent file size with handbrake for some reason so will have to experiment further. Not going to upload an 8 minute vid @ 390mb to youtube lol. It's certainly possible that I'm just running into tops of ranges too frequently - that's how it feels anyhow! - but the longer it goes on the more unlikely that becomes, shifting towards "I've sprung many leaks"
06-14-2012
, 05:25 AM
06-14-2012
, 08:25 AM
Stake: $2.10
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Super Turbo(Merge)
Number of Games: 40
going to be a reg in this thread starting today.. been averaging 40-60 games a day since coming back to poker.. haven't had a winning day since returning. Running about 30+bi below EV.. transitioning from HUCash to HUST SNG's.
06-14-2012
, 08:28 PM
done for the day.. weakest volume day of the week, finally booked a win.. have been studying and reading HH a lot.. i feel like i'm playing well. Now if the Heat can book a win tonight in OKC.. GO HEAT!
Stake: $2.10
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Super Turbo(Merge)
Number of Games: 30
Stake: $2.10
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Super Turbo(Merge)
Number of Games: 30
06-15-2012
, 12:16 AM
Stake: $1.50
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Hyper
Number of Games: 52
HEM Hours: 2.3 hours
Network: Stars
Notes: Just another ****ty day, starts off good (of course only EV-wise) then starts going back down, then 10 games of absolutely crushed in a row, just sickening, then a little bit of a comeback. Spewed off a buyin or two, must remember never barrel a pairing turn card!
Successfully recorded most games to divx video, might try to upload one. It comes out quite lightened and dull looking for some reason, unless I use "camstudio lossless", but then that takes gigs of disk. Will see if I can find an "interesting" one, but I really just want to find one that represents normal play and isn't just a bad beat post disguised as a video!
06-16-2012
, 02:16 AM
Stake: $3.50
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Hyper
Number of Games: 10
HEM Hours: 0.5 hours
Network: Stars
Notes: Annoyed from the realization I'd not have lost nearly so much money and my redline would look way better given 25% less rake than the ridiculous 4% at the $1.50s, I decided to stop being a coward and move up to the $3.50s today. Need to do well here I really don't want to spoil my currently very good all time graph at this stake, lol! or lose my roll for that matter.
Played only 10 games, stopped for food then got distracted chatting on skype for a while until it was too late to consider playing more, needed to sleep "early" and I'm already quite late. Recorded them al to camstudio, I think that helps focus my play a little / helps me do what I know I should, since idiocy that is recorded may not be so easily forgotten! I'll def have to cut together some interesting games and post it.
Last edited by _dave_; 06-16-2012 at 04:47 PM.
06-17-2012
, 12:57 AM
a little over 100 buyins for $3.50, would prefer more!
Stake: $3.50
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Hyper
Number of Games: 50
HEM Hours: 2.5 hours
Network: Stars
Notes: I almost made a "why so serious" face another grim day, at least the reduced rake of the 3.50s made this a barely positive redline day. kinda happy to have gotten almost back to even, but the lack of EV is a huge problem I'm clearly doing something wrong. Recorded most games to video, hopefully that helps.
But then I look at micros post above, and redline is up and down all over the place breakeven after ~220 games, then a huge upswing. 50 games is a lol tiny sample. but every day I get the same, still waiting for my upswing!
Stake: $3.50
Tables/Format: 1 Table, Hyper
Number of Games: 50
HEM Hours: 2.5 hours
Network: Stars
Notes: I almost made a "why so serious" face
another grim day, at least the reduced rake of the 3.50s made this a barely positive redline day. kinda happy to have gotten almost back to even, but the lack of EV is a huge problem I'm clearly doing something wrong. Recorded most games to video, hopefully that helps.But then I look at micros post above, and redline is up and down all over the place breakeven after ~220 games, then a huge upswing. 50 games is a lol tiny sample. but every day I get the same, still waiting for my upswing!
Last edited by _dave_; 06-17-2012 at 01:03 AM.
