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Old 01-07-2015, 12:43 PM   #1
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SpinWiz - The registration and session management tool for Spin & Go-s

http://www.spinandgowiz.com/

Being offered in conjunction with HUSNG.com, SpinWiz is the new automatic registration software available for Spin and Gos.

This software allows you to automatically manage your sessions in the new and popular Spin and Go poker format. You can set the amount of tables and buyin(s) you want to play, you can choose to avoid your friends in the que and more!

It is very easy to use.

1) Get your free licence from the website.
1) Download and unpack the software.
2) Run the exe, activate your licence, set up your session and start grinding!

Here is a video on how to use SpinWiz



It only costs 25 Euro per month or 99 Euro for 6 months.

Our business committment:

We will never ban a player for expressing their opinion about the software, anyone involved with the software or any other entity.

We will work hard to add updates that users want, to make this the most complete and community oriented software for Spin and Gos.

http://www.spinandgowiz.com/

Update: This thread was closed to consolidate support into one area (skype 1 on 1 help). If you'd like to talk about this program (positively or negatively), you can post in the spin n go regulars thread anytime.

Update: Full EULA is here - http://www.spinandgowiz.com/eula (last updated August 2nd, 2015)

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Old 01-07-2015, 12:51 PM   #2
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I'm happy that HUSNG.com is working with SpinWiz. It's really important that they understand the responsibility of operating large and successful registration software, including developing the software continuously based on the community's feedback and standing by the guarantees they've made.

Unlike other registration software in various games that I've seen over the years, this software's "avoid a friend feature" is not a bumhunter feature. While it allows you to avoid your friends, if another person is willing to be seated with that player, they will register at the same time as that player. So there is a balance with this feature, a real risk reward element to the software that I'm interested to see how the community feels about after using it for some time period.
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Old 01-07-2015, 02:02 PM   #3
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Re: SpinWiz - The registration and session management tool for Spin & Go-s

is this soft approved by stars?
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Old 01-07-2015, 02:08 PM   #4
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is this soft approved by stars?
It is brand new so it has not had a chance to be added to approved or prohibited list. We will update this soon.
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Old 01-07-2015, 02:44 PM   #5
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I hope this gets banned. The "avoid regs" is bad for the games.
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Old 01-07-2015, 02:56 PM   #6
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:02 PM   #7
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Im pretty sure Stars put some thought into having a battlenet lobby system, esp. so that people cannot avoid each other and the player pool is fairly distributed. Another issue i see - when people abuse this kind of software, they can simulsit tables and thus collude...

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Old 01-07-2015, 03:03 PM   #8
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oh enough already please perma ban this stars. Spins are designed to be a blind sit without any filtering mechanisms, if you want to know who you're playing, play another format. I'd be shocked and appalled if this gets approved by stars.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:10 PM   #9
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I understand some people may dislike the software. However, the primary purpose of it is to make sure that 3 regs aren't sitting at the same time in these and making the games unsustainable. It should be far more fair to not be sitting with 2 other regulars all the time than to have that happen.

To specifically address your collusion concerns, 3 handed SNG with or without this program are still far harder to try to collude in than 6 max or 9 man SNGs.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:15 PM   #10
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This is actually good for the games. Without register software in hu sng all the regulars would sit at the same time for most of their games and not make any profit. This type of software makes it fair.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:18 PM   #11
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:25 PM   #12
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:25 PM   #13
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This is actually good for the games. Without register software in hu sng all the regulars would sit at the same time for most of their games and not make any profit. This type of software makes it fair.
Its not good for the games - only good for regs once this software reaches a critical mass as sharky did allowing them to bumhunt the games once again. If software like this catches on we go down the exact same path as we did in Hypers...
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:30 PM   #14
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The little difference between these and hu is that regs aren't registering to win the xXXXX multiplier only and they do care about any slight advantage they can have for the long run.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:32 PM   #15
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Its not good for the games - only good for regs once this software reaches a critical mass as sharky did allowing them to bumhunt the games once again. If software like this catches on we go down the exact same path as we did in Hypers...
I can see how you might feel that way, but there is a very important difference here.

The issue with sharky was that it made you choose between sitting a tougher match (a reg), causing the line to shorten to benefit others, and waiting in a long line to bumhunt with others. There was no incentive to do anything other than bumhunt. Thus divisions were created and so on.

This SpinWiz software has avoided that problem by allowing players to pick and choose avoids, and the nature of 3 handed random registration means even if you wanted to sit every single player in the line, you will still get paired up with non regs at least 33% of the time (likely more actually).

Therefore, this tool does not allow you to hunt specific players. It also gives you a real incentive to not avoid 100% of players, since by unfriending a player you're not playing them 100% of the time (unlike HUSNG).

So this software is far more versatile and tame and not going to cause the same problems that Sharky causes with the broken risk/reward incentive.

The #1 complaint everybody here talks about is that Spin and Gos have zero control over game selection and that this will cause the games to be unprofitable long term. This tool does not give you 100% control, it strikes a balance to help make these games more sustainable for a larger # of players.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:39 PM   #16
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I think the crux is that it's not up to you to alter the rules of the game. You are supposed to have zero control over game selection.
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Old 01-07-2015, 03:42 PM   #17
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I think the crux is that it's not up to you to alter the rules of the game. You are supposed to have zero control over game selection.
If you and I decide we will sit at the same time always, we will have some % control over game selection.

This program is nothing other than automating that.

Just like how in some games the regs all take turns sitting, while in others they use automatic software to do that.

Just like how you can manually take notes, or use auto note taking software. It's the same with database software.

This program does not control game selection. It cannot block players from sitting recreational players either. If you don't want to buy it, you won't have to either, you can just sit and get a game and it won't be 1-2 regs always either.
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:04 PM   #18
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Re: SpinWiz - The registration and session management tool for Spin & Go-s

Trialing the program now, had a minor issue. Support helped me out right away and got it fixed.


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This is actually good for the games. Without register software in hu sng all the regulars would sit at the same time for most of their games and not make any profit. This type of software makes it fair.
Agree, these games are sooo swingy, no need bigger swings, and rake are too high. Its fair, due to everyone can buy it not just do it for some guy.
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:12 PM   #19
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The #1 complaint everybody here talks about is that Spin and Gos have zero control over game selection and that this will cause the games to be unprofitable long term.
aside from rake gouging and paystructuring that is designed to minimize people cashing out profits


this sucks pretty bad for recs tho right?

doesnt it virtually ensure that they are seated with a subscriber once there are enough of them?


might that not be a negative in regards to the long term health of the spin ecosystem if there is a non crappy balance to be achieved


mostly just subscribing, curious about the implications of this long term, since if this is promoted and not banned by stars it almost certainly adds to the reg pool, and then stars could just ban it later and then there are a ton of regs in blind lobbies and everyone suffers

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Old 01-07-2015, 04:19 PM   #20
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aside from rake gouging and paystructuring that is designed to minimize people cashing out profits


this sucks pretty bad for recs tho right?

doesnt it virtually ensure that they are seated with a subscriber once there are enough of them?


might that not be a negative in regards to the long term health of the spin ecosystem if there is a non crappy balance to be achieved
It's virtually impossible for this software to seat one of it's users into each starting table, because of the high volume of starting tables. There will be a lot of tables with three recreational players playing against each other.
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my initial curiosity about the mechanics would be with xx subscribers running the software what % of total potential registration time is "prevented" due to conflicting desire to reg and how that changes with 10 times as many subscribers running the software
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:23 PM   #22
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It's virtually impossible for this software to seat one of it's users into each starting table, because of the high volume of starting tables. There will be a lot of tables with three recreational players playing against each other.
with 300 2 tabling subscribers tho.... how realistic does the concern over who randoms are facing become

10 games per table per hr*300 is 6k games per hr, how many run at 30s? etc


the best and worst case scenario is that these games are worthwhile (but can be ruined very efficiently by player base changes)
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:26 PM   #23
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Agree, these games are sooo swingy, no need bigger swings, and rake are too high. Its fair, due to everyone can buy it not just do it for some guy.
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:30 PM   #24
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with 300 2 tabling subscribers tho.... how realistic does the concern over who randoms are facing become

10 games per table per hr*300 is 6k games per hr, how many run at 30s? etc
There is a waiting list and all the 300 hypothetical subscribers don't have a green light to register at the same time. Also the queue is not processed at the speed of light.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:41 PM   #25
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Wow. So this isn't a wind-up.

Any idea how long until 'stars confirm if they are OK with this? I would have thought that they would want to maintain completely blind registration.

BTW the comment that that sometimes having to play regs is the biggest problem with these games is not how I see it, the biggest problem is the random prize pools and the massive weighting of returns on a very small number of high multipliers.
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