Yeah, this.

@ Ry
yeah and it's a perfect example that you should remove that stupid name in the title (as alreasy 45364 people told you).

I'm fairly new to hypers and this isn't affecting me yet,
but it sure was a very interesting read to see what this is all about...

It is impossible to sit people in a waiting list created by sharky as its a sharky waiting list not a pokerstars one.

If you create a pokerstars waiting list you are basically creating infinate lobbies like fulltilt.

In the current climate I think the fulltilt lobby system would work better due to the volume of regs. It may not look pretty but it sure as hell beats 2 lobbies on show constantly filled by the same regs. At least that way recs would feel that they have a chance of playing someone different/choosing who they play/given the chance to sit first.

If this here continues there soon will be no videos on "how to crush fish like a boss", I fear it will be more like "how I hide best from cartel"; well I wont buy these then:-)

"Crushing Weak Cartel Regs Like a Boss" in development

the group would be organized the same way as it is now: members have to sit non members in the lobby. just that everyone can join and hence to meet the quota, i suppose that you also have to sit members of the group. this still basically forces regs to join the group if they want to play recreational players, but unlike in the current case, nobody is kept out of that group if he wants in.

now your second concern is something where i need the insight of active cartel members: isn't the problem of supervision already arising? somehow it has to be monitored already if the cartel members sit second enough. so does this problem actually differ with the other system?

this is relatively easily solveable from a technical standpoint: if one player from the list wants to sit the other, instead of letting the first player in line get a lobby, one of those people gets the lobby and the other sits him. the match instantly takes place and there is almost no delay for the other people in the list.

Seems like 60s cartel members are doing really well. Here is totally random selection of cartel members since 28th of January, the official starting date.

Seems like 60s cartel is totally lose-lose situation. Cartel loses, sitlist loses. Pokerstars wins. $100+ cartellers win.

The sooner 60s cartel regs realize this the sooner it ends. Maybe some of them are already facing a bankroll situation or a potentially losing month.

Wake up! You got f-d.

Imo:
1. filter those stats for 60s hyper only coz some of them are fighting on 100s as well.
2. thats the beginning so the % vs regs should be much higher -> lower roi and higher variance.

Maybe not everything is at it appears on SS

another great post!
ur nailing it man keep up the good work

Ouch! Who then made the profit?

Random selection not so random as usual

Wrong on so many levels..... why post that, mate? I am actually amazed you included one of the guys on that list, let alone that sharkscope stats for like 10 days tell you close to 0 for how's anyone doing.

try 14.2k game sample with -5.5k profit.
if you want to argue this, please bring reasonable points like not filtered for 60s, biased sample or whatever.

without ev that graph is worthless, it shows what it shows - ppl are down 5.5k(~b/e with rb) after 14k games, nothing else. even with ev 14k games has lots of variance in such games and we could only estimate based on results how people are doing

My issues are with particular individuals on that list, not with the overall results. Obviously you are right about the total you bring up, doesn't look too good.

Who are the top regs that are not in one particular group/cartel and what are their reasons of not being in there? Any ideas?

If the 60's cartel are preventing other regs from getting fish
That means that most fish play vs cartel members right?

And to be in cartel you must be one of the stronger regs

So cartel members play only weaker regs and fish
And non cartel members play only stronger regs but get no fish or close to none

Doesnt this mean that non cartel members should have a way lower roi?
And cartel regs roi should be wayyy higher?

It seems something is going wrong here

Its been wrong ever since PokerStars allowed a third party program to dictate who gets to sit in their lobbies first. Its obviously not good for the game or keeping recreational players since they will always face a shark. Stars should just make a 'one register option' that puts you into a match with a random player from the queue. This would somewhat stabilize the food chain and yet create more action/rake for Stars.

Battle Royale!

god, stop blaming sharky for recs not getting play other recs, there is no universe where fish could opensit 100s long enough to get fish sit him without being sat, no matter if there is sharky or not.