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10-24-2015 , 03:06 AM
Readless, 3rd hand...It seems with this "population" that a turn lead for a pot sized bet often means top pair, but I have seen K8,K9 & K10 bet like this (and perhaps we can remove a small percentage of AK which may have acted differently preflop). Do you think that call/ re-evaluate river is much better here? or what would you have done? we both have about a pot sized bet left on the river, can you find a fold otr to a shove? When you get outkickered like this do you just think "just-too-bad, bit of a cooler"?

888 Poker - $0.37+$0.03|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 23 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
Hero (BB): 27 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 3 T 9
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, SB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB and is all-in, SB calls 14 BB and is all-in

River: (46 BB, 2 players) 4

SB shows K Q (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 74%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows K J (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 26%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)
SB wins 46 BB
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10-24-2015 , 07:09 AM
Dunno.
If your opponent stack off with hands like OESD's or 2nd pairs I would like that shove on the turn.
It is a pretty thin spot.
I guess gutshots wont bet this flop since you call his min 3-bet PF.
This is a bad board for KQ and he wont bet his gutshot there cause it is a board that you are check-raising him AI pretty often.
After his three-bet and when the K comes OTR you should think that he may have outkicked you.
Plus after they min 3-bet and don't bet this board they usyally have some type of broadway that don't want to get raised off their hand.
I would call his bet OTR and call a bet OTR,I guess.
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10-24-2015 , 07:47 AM
Do not min3bet preflop.
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10-24-2015 , 08:29 AM
WTF,Misread.
This 3-betting strat applies to you,then.
Yes and definately do not min3-bet pre.
If you think you have the best hand,raise an amount that you think gets you more value!
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10-24-2015 , 09:07 AM
I think your post-flop play is fine. Ott, there is way more worse Kx in his range than stronger Kx. He would often bet otf with KT and K9, and 4bet pre with AK and sometimes KQ. By c/shoving you can get value from K2, K4-K8 and some draws (his pot-sized bet could indicate a semi-bluff). Also, 2p/sets would've bet flop, and straights would often bet smaller ott, so not much to worry from that either.
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10-25-2015 , 10:54 AM
this is spot you don't need to be in, flat preflop
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