as always your posts are awesome. thanks for clearing up all my questions and arguments

oh wait.. not even a single one

What da heck is there to clear up? Think just for 5 secs. why ChicagoRy would like to have this thread in his forum... If you still cant come up with a million reasons for it, i´ll help you out...

haha ofc u cant come up with reasons

well i only play the 30's and of all the tables i play you get some regs that mix them in with tourneys, some of the HU sng guys some of the 6max hypers, and then some rdm people only playing these that will prob eventually become regs..

If i were to play 6max hypers i would prob get 4/5 regs, 1/2 , 2fish at most...

So many games just get fish fish, fish fish, fish reg, reg reg... etc :P

I can only go off sharkscope stats, initial game play, but like i say there a ton more fish.. (would be nice if somebody could provide a reg list for the 15/30$ sngs's )

But fish can also in weird way in short term make variance higher, because it is a turbo structure and sometimes it can be tricky to see who is tight fish and who is crazy fish.. With the regs at least you know what your getting..


So i kinda just want to go back to the point and say i don't think at this stage most of the money that feeds the 100k jackpot etc etc comes from regs... Because so many different players just mix these spin and go's in.

Lets start with a simple one:
- because those games are basically 75% heads up play and thus much closer to HU Sngs than any other game format.

Going on from here...

Traffic is multiple times bigger than all HUSNGs combined

Which leads us to...
By end of spring 2015 HUSNGs will be as dead as dodo and those are all thats left to play!

That is, if Stars doesnt come down on HUSNGs even earlier enforcing something really nasty.. maybe you guys missed the "Stars going after Seatscripts" thread..

So, maybe you can see where this is going huh? So a guy like Ryan probably thinks, its good to have that thing in here before i´m totally out of business soon.

nice that finally u start arguing without blaming like a tard. so still why should he allowed to do so? why should stars get free promotion? They werent the first who invented this game, so why is it called "spin and goes" ? ipoker has the same games.

also beeing 67% heads up, is still no reason to promote this here

for me it looks like either ryan is getting an advantage out of that, by increasing the traffic or stars has been paying for promotion. either way i dont like it

which obv is only negative for all hu regs

isnt most people on these forums Americans anyways ?

thats not right, a big part might be americans, but i know tons of guys here which arent americans

Ohoh... i see another strike coming up.... is my "answer like a tard" line to that

Just because you dont like something doesnt mean it has to go... And i think there already is a HUGE thread in NVG about a guy who went this way and it backfired a bit...

oh okey, sorry that i mentioned that i dont like it for obvious reasons. Doesnt still change anything of my arguments

Spin and goes arent head s up sngs. Also you write like Ryan does own 2+2. He is a mod at 2+2 and owns promotions threads. + Dont see why stars should get all the promotion here (official improvements thread - no improvements since 5 years, spin and go discussion - where everyone agreed here that variance is too high and they still increased the variance, so why do we have this thread here ?)

+ On top if ppl still agree to have it here, Name of the thread shouldnt be "spin and goes". it should be the general game type name. 3 man jackpots or whatever

If there's a spin and go forum, obviously there will be spin and go strategy there.

There is not. HUSNG is the closest format to it.

The STT forum also has a thread for it. Even though they talk about 6-9 mans in that forum, they have a 3 man thread. But that is also fair.

It boils down to: It's a popular format, and players from HUSNGs and 6-9 mans are both interested and playing these games. It's appropriate to have threads in either/both forums.

I mean, there are only 1k+ posts in this thread, do you really think it's a bad spot for it and there are better forums? Nobody was talking about these games until they came to Stars. If everyone was crazy about iPoker 3 man SNGs, we'd have a thread in here about them too.

As far as the Stars Improvement Thread, if people want it closed, it'll be closed at some point. It seemed rash to react to rake changes (and also combative) by closing that thread. If we want an open and positive dialogue, striking back at Stars by removing their thread is probably not the best way to do it.

Players decided to take a break from reg wars to demonstrate the value that regs bring. I think that was a great movement, it did not disrupt tables or circumvent rake, nor was it instigating further negative changes.

Naming wise, we call hyper turbos hyper turbos. Even though FTP had super turbos first. So why do we call them hyper turbos? Because the most action has been on Stars for those games, so the most people call them hypers. It doesn't mean super turbos is an incorrect name, but it does mean that most threads referring to these games will probably refer to the title that the most popular site offering them calls them (aka hyper turbos).

You're underestimating the improtance of zero game selection. On FTP I sometimes get the same reg on 6 tables (usually when action is slow and I launch all my tables at once). You will see the same people over...and over...again. Theres always several regs 6-10 tabling them, and with the way smaller FTP player pool, you end up facing each other alot. The main redeeming factor is that the regs aren't very strong, esp with too many tables

Fun swings

Sic start

quit at hand 3,843

The x-axis of the graph is for tournaments. He's played 10.5K Spin & Gos already, otherwise he wouldn't have an EV of as many as 497K chips Hats off!

and then do what?

rub $ on your titties obv

I'm 60 buy-ins up over like 200 games playing a couple every night, 1 tabling like a boss.

Highest spin was 6x.

Inb4 soul crushing runs

What page has the payout distributions %'s on?

Curious how often 6x is compared to higher tier spins.

rubbing the $$$ on your titiets only takes a few seconds, maybe a minute if you really enjoy it..

spin and go;'s u can play for hours on hours on hours... on hours

http://www.pokerimania.com/forum/gen...tars-t314.html

thnxbud

how frequent is it that you go on streaks of 50+ games where the prizepool is just x2?

i wonder what a sustainable bankroll would look like in terms of amount of BI's needed? the idea that you can not only run bad with card distribution but also payout distribution makes my head hurt