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12-11-2019 , 01:03 AM
Can anyone tell me about Spin and Go Flash and why it's a bad idea to play it? So far it seems like a lot of fun, and I need someone to tell me how much I'm punting.
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12-11-2019 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
Can anyone tell me about Spin and Go Flash and why it's a bad idea to play it? So far it seems like a lot of fun, and I need someone to tell me how much I'm punting.
Meh, ok I felt somewhat guilty about not doing the math myself and relying on y'all for the answer. So I dug up Maxcut's EV equation and plugged in the numbers.

[(Total Chips Won + Starting Stack) / Total Chips] x (1 - Rake) x 3

Rake is the same as regular Spins, starting stack is 300 chips. Seems like I need to win 22 chips a game to breakeven.

We need a BigHusla to put in 1000 games and let us know if they're beatable.
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12-11-2019 , 06:15 AM
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=591
Flush is beatable to amaya only.
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12-11-2019 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
Can anyone tell me about Spin and Go Flash and why it's a bad idea to play it? So far it seems like a lot of fun, and I need someone to tell me how much I'm punting.
My quick math based on the number of hands and the effective depth they are played, showed that if you are around 8% ev at normal 25s spins, you'll be beating flash for couple % ev or so.
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12-17-2019 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by monkys
30$ 27 chip +EV????
RB-s are also wrong
Am i the stupid one who dont understand this table, or u guys posting bullshits?
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12-17-2019 , 12:56 AM
starting chips are 300 so 27 chipev is a winrate of 36.333% whereas with 500 starting chips its a winrate of 35.1333%
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12-31-2019 , 07:16 PM
Daily reminder that Bodog 60s are rigged for house bots
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01-02-2020 , 05:09 AM
Anyone know if it's possible to disable Flash in the PokerStars lobby? I accidentally clicked open a couple instead of regular spins earlier.
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01-05-2020 , 01:55 PM
with the 1m special on PS on $1 spins, is it better to just play $2 spins? I assume the 1m special could be translated as extra rake for the 1m spin pool, but also more recs flowing in? I know its just pennies for u guys but if some1 could give the opinion, I have 67cev on $1 spins on the last 2k spins (which is my entire 2019 data haha, i dont play much)
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01-05-2020 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoT
with the 1m special on PS on $1 spins, is it better to just play $2 spins? I assume the 1m special could be translated as extra rake for the 1m spin pool, but also more recs flowing in? I know its just pennies for u guys but if some1 could give the opinion, I have 67cev on $1 spins on the last 2k spins (which is my entire 2019 data haha, i dont play much)
Play 1$ spin,idont think they make the 1mil jackpot from the rake,its just a promotion for few weeks it may hit or it may not.
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01-07-2020 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Angelo93
Play 1$ spin,idont think they make the 1mil jackpot from the rake,its just a promotion for few weeks it may hit or it may not.
I've noticed there is a 1% rake increase whenever the stake you are playing is changed to a 1 million+ jackpot or one of those UFC special ones.
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01-08-2020 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by undftd23
I've noticed there is a 1% rake increase whenever the stake you are playing is changed to a 1 million+ jackpot or one of those UFC special ones.
Yep and for ticket spins also.Im personally disgusted expecially from spins with higher rake for tickets which are guarantied rake after that and which must be less rake not bigger .Jokerstars -hope they die faster but it wont happen since they started to do everymonth series cuz they cant keep the schedule alive otherwise is dead in a couple of months....
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01-21-2020 , 12:51 PM
I would like to hear your opinions about the state of spins across all sites.
Winamax used to be pretty decent but the reg ratio has skyrocketed lately even at the very low stakes. I have not played on stars for a long time but I heard they changed spins strutcture for the worse which attracted even more regs to other sites I guess?
Do spins even have a future?
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01-29-2020 , 02:25 PM
Is it harder to beat the spin go games with ante?
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01-29-2020 , 07:26 PM
Fishs and even regs should more exploitable. But you probably gonna play less hands per games. More games per hours tho.
Are the level 3 minutes on the site your aiming to play ? How's the rake/rakeback ?
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01-30-2020 , 03:37 PM
There's a wealth of information on this thread, but since sites have changed formats recently, I wanted to ask for a fresh recommendation from a current grinder... What sites have you played Spin and Go formats on? Which site do you prefer and why? I am hoping to switch from Stars due to the high rake and lackluster rewards. My fellow Spin grinders love Winamax, but I can't seem to verify my account as a Canadian. If there are any other grinders here, please recommend your preferred platform! In return, I promise to be an awkward fish as I climb the stakes.*
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03-10-2020 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by baztalkspoker
Anyone know if it's possible to disable Flash in the PokerStars lobby? I accidentally clicked open a couple instead of regular spins earlier.
Well I think even more important: you should be able to set your range of buy-ins like in normal SNGs, don't want to play for $1000 by accident
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03-11-2020 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Syracuse Baller
Well I think even more important: you should be able to set your range of buy-ins like in normal SNGs, don't want to play for $1000 by accident
You can use the responsible gaming buyin filters to do this if you want.
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03-27-2020 , 01:21 PM
As a long time spin grinder , I needs to ask you this question!
I have been grinding this format since late 2016 if not mistaken, started $7 on the side table and in no time reached the 100s, had a 68 CEV on 100s on late 2017 and 2018 ,than my CEV started coming down and downer. 2019 I barely reached 50CEV ,always around 48/47 ,, and since late 2019 ,in the last 8K game , my CEV is around 36 !! I have grinded 500s/250s and a few 1K also ,but never the game was that bad in my eyes,Now I am wondering if I'm losing it or is it really bad
Most of my poker friends are tourney grinders and doing much better.
Do you think We are stock in the wrong format these days ?Or simply I suck as the games gets harder? or is it just pure run bad? I am on break even in the last 8K games (real money) with 36cev and kind of getting frustrated. It is my longest dry run for spins and I can't even win v2fishes games which you get rarely on 100s these days.



With this coronavirus ,most poker formats most be hot and We are playing the worst one with the highest variance and after introduction of the flash ,less fishes ,and F**G stars tries to milk all ours and fishes blood together.and instead of getting punished they're f'** getting rewarded with super duper traffic due to the pandemic.

Last edited by RiverPrayer; 03-27-2020 at 01:40 PM.
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03-27-2020 , 03:59 PM
If you can't even win vs the bad players, then I think you answered your own question: You're running poorly. Make sure you focus on playing good during these times especially, can easily prevent an 8k breakeven from being a 12k breakeven by maintaining focus.

As far as formats, I don't see anything that is as nuts as the hu cash craze of the mid 10s, where $100 HUSNG players would sit as high as $10-20 and just decline all sitters until a really bad player came. So I wouldn't worry too much about missing out, but if you play multiple games as a high skill level, go ahead and play both games and see how it compares.

Otherwise, this is too short of a boom to online for you to take up another game, it'll easily take a month or longer of studying to become as good in another format as your primary.
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03-28-2020 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverPrayer
As a long time spin grinder , I needs to ask you this question!
I have been grinding this format since late 2016 if not mistaken, started $7 on the side table and in no time reached the 100s, had a 68 CEV on 100s on late 2017 and 2018 ,than my CEV started coming down and downer. 2019 I barely reached 50CEV ,always around 48/47 ,, and since late 2019 ,in the last 8K game , my CEV is around 36 !! I have grinded 500s/250s and a few 1K also ,but never the game was that bad in my eyes,Now I am wondering if I'm losing it or is it really bad
Most of my poker friends are tourney grinders and doing much better.
Do you think We are stock in the wrong format these days ?Or simply I suck as the games gets harder? or is it just pure run bad? I am on break even in the last 8K games (real money) with 36cev and kind of getting frustrated. It is my longest dry run for spins and I can't even win v2fishes games which you get rarely on 100s these days.
Last few months winrates dropped a lot, games got really hard especially after PS made structure/rake changes. 36cpg is quite fine winrate (guess could be better during 'coronaboom' but I haven`t been playing too many 100s lately).
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03-30-2020 , 02:05 PM
I'm not good at math so if someone could tell me if this is correct.

What are the odds of winamax pro Timotty hitting the 10.000x multiplier in 3 days on winamax?

Let's say there is 2500 spins between first and second one.

Would that be 1/250000 *1-((1-1/250000)^2500) = 0.000004*0.00995 = 0.0000000398

or 1 in 25.125.628 ?

Second question, if this number is correct, how much does this,according to you, increase the chance of this being rigged? I personally don't think it is as I don't see any merits of doing this as it might even have the opposite effect.

Just curious what others think of it, as it still is a 1 in 25M shot (if math is correct)
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03-31-2020 , 01:49 PM
*Odds of hitting it twice in 3 days
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03-31-2020 , 03:07 PM
~1/20k
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04-02-2020 , 09:23 PM
Anyone have an roi to share on America’s card room over a decent sample? Curious what’s realistic ty
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