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11-05-2019 , 11:55 AM
in pt4 for break even only need 31-32 chips,
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11-05-2019 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 7betpafold
Thank you! There are also 2 ways to see, although 14.10 + 0.90 fee, 0.90 is a 6% of 15 $ buy in, but 14.90 * 0.064 = 15 $ approxx, its 6% rake or 6.4%, or 7% as they say, or 7.5%? heheh how can I know the real rake?
thanks a lot !!!!

Thank you! There are also 2 ways to see, although 14.10 + 0.90 fee, 0.90 is a 6% of 15 $ buy in, but 14.10 * 0.064 = 0,90 $ approxx, its 6% rake or 6.4%, or 7% as they say, or 7.5%? heheh how can I know the real rake?
thanks a lot !!!!

in pt4 only need 31-32 chips for break even
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11-05-2019 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 7betpafold
Thank you! There are also 2 ways to see, although 14.10 + 0.90 fee, 0.90 is a 6% of 15 $ buy in, but 14.10 * 0.064 = 0,90 $ approxx, its 6% rake or 6.4%, or 7% as they say, or 7.5%? heheh how can I know the real rake?
thanks a lot !!!!

in pt4 only need 31-32 chips for break even
If you're looking at PS $15 spins, the rake is 6% and not 7% as we were discussing in the previous posts. Break even for 6% rake is ~ 32 chips per game.
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11-17-2019 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by coon74
Here's a hack that doesn't require subqueries and hence computes much faster. In the reports tab, add the filter
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#Chips Won# in (-300,600)
Then only those tourneys where you either lost 300 chips or won 600 in total will be shown, i.e., those Flashes that weren't affected by disconnections. (In normal spins without disconnections, you either lose 500 or win 1000.) In order to include some of the tourneys with disconnections, you can change the filter to
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#Chips Won# between -300 and 600
but that might also include some of the normal spins with disconnections into the sample.
I'm a bit out of practice using PT4, I can't find a filter for chips won. Could you explain how you add it please?
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11-17-2019 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mimic
Thread kinda blowing up now https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=286
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11-20-2019 , 10:47 AM
What`s the deal with 60s today? I tried to open a few games after a holiday and was waiting a few minutes for tables to fill. Traffic that low?
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11-21-2019 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyPL1
What`s the deal with 60s today? I tried to open a few games after a holiday and was waiting a few minutes for tables to fill. Traffic that low?
It's the lobby refusing to give games to old guys. It's a sign.
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11-21-2019 , 09:28 AM
Should be opposite as all old guys donate money to other players
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11-22-2019 , 04:37 AM
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HU hypers were already occupied by a few different bot groups, I will give a brief history of how things unfolded ever since I tried to join the divisions, but for that we are going to need a few definitions of the different bot groups and their members.

1. Bali group:

- v2the3 on PS , vtwothe3 on party , v2the3 on 888, vtothe3/v2the3 on WPN
- the1rake1 on PS , fishenzone1 on party, the2rake2 on 888, 1rake1/kiluifuplay on WPN
- mavricckk on PS , mavvrickkk on party, mavricckk on 888, your_mum on WPN
- majcy on PS, majcyy on party, majcyyy on 888, majcy on wpn





2. Canadians

- PrimordialAA on PS, LePetitCapra on party, AshFrmPokemn on 888, AshFrmPokemn on WPN
- Helio_TYF on PS , birdpersonC87 on party, mrpoopyp4nts on 888, Another1 on WPN
- IKSecret on PS , IKSecret on 888, XieXie on party, Another_One on WPN ( initially with Canadians group, left at some point )

3. Jhub group

- Jhub on PS, Jhub3OOO on 888, anothonyff on WPN
- spacegravy on PS, RichFish1954 on 888, Rspacegravy on party, OLD TIME GIN on WPN
- voss1313 on PS, DoGood1313 on 888, LetItMove on party , killuifuplay on WPN
- spiritedreal on PS, 2piritedreal on 888, jojatekos1 on party, tiyrgul on WPN

( 100-300 horses on 888: Redskins53, Goinindry, I AM MASHINE )

4. Germans

- currrrrr on PS, soiidogz on 888
- torg0th on PS
- maltesukt on PS, Jessica_1998 on party, JustSpoon on 888, Kaitlyn on WPN
- at0mfred on PS , Waduhek on party, Atomfred on 888, Atomfred/At0mfred on WPN
- Ziroto on PS , Bomschikiwauwau on party, Shalalalaaaa on 888, Bomschikiwauwau on WPN
- Don Bjorn on PS , wuffl84 on pary, KaffeeJurgen on 888, Coffeejuergen on WPN

Lower stakes horses for the Germans - SheldonC0per , Optimus23P
so those are all cheaters??
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11-22-2019 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ohly
so those are all cheaters??
They are alleged of cheating. No hard proof yet. As I understand it.
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11-22-2019 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
They are alleged of cheating. No hard proof yet. As I understand it.
I'm personally not sure about every single name on that list, but at the very least most of them have been banned from PS and I personally know with near 100% certainty that many of them are confirmed botters. This sort of stuff has been known in the husng community for a long time, though it's good that it's starting to come out a bit more widely now.

I would probably take an even money bet that every single name on that list is a confirmed bot group acct, based on the many that I know (ex. entire German crew) to be botters and have bot connected players.
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11-22-2019 , 08:43 PM
A good number of them at least are gto bot cheaters yes, I have no reason to think the list is false at all.

Spoiler:
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11-22-2019 , 11:08 PM
Hope that sites are willing and able to police the games and provide adequate punishments. Have my doubts about that tho; PS is the industry leader and has been more interested in short-term profits over long-term health for a few years now. Botting doesn't appear to be one of their main concerns, probably because it leads to a lot of rake. Heard rumors about it being far worse on other sites (Winamax/ACR/iPoker).

Until there are severe penalties for such actions, I don't think much is going to change. Currently the only consequence for stealing tens of thousands of dollars is a bit of public scorn on a small corner of the internet.
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11-23-2019 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
PS is the industry leader and has been more interested in short-term profits over long-term health for a few years now. Botting doesn't appear to be one of their main concerns, probably because it leads to a lot of rake.
You, sir, are clearly out of touch with this one. You can blame Stars for a lot of things, you cannot reasonably claim that they haven't been going hard on botting or that they are not doing it now.
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11-23-2019 , 09:52 PM
I read it as in the future it will not be a priority for them, which is my concern as well
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11-24-2019 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by valuecutting
I read it as in the future it will not be a priority for them, which is my concern as well
Before laughing at this statement, I'm interested in a thinking process behind it, like how do you even come to such conclusions?
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11-24-2019 , 09:41 PM
obviously from the previous posts about them potentially downsizing their security department?
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11-25-2019 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by valuecutting
obviously from the previous posts about them potentially downsizing their security department?
There are few problems with your train of thought:
1) someone's opinion in a post on 2p2 is not and cannot be taken as a fact regardless of which large corporation and their operations are in question;
2) ..hence, speculations based on someone's hearsay can be misleading and further escalation of wrong information can only magnify incorrect perception of reality
3) even if someone's hearsay is partially or fully correct, in this case downsizing of department X, your previous point is most likely misleading because downsizing by itself doesn't mean that somehow effectiveness/productivity will be affected, in fact, most of the time, that's not how large corporations operate -- most often businesses are planning ahead and would be looking to optimize or automate internal processes, since getting more for less is the whole idea in XXI century, hence see point #2.
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11-25-2019 , 01:55 PM
You clearly don't follow PS or you don't know their history, if you don't understand Acbaron concerns.
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11-25-2019 , 07:02 PM
Right
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12-04-2019 , 06:54 PM
New Pokerstars Limits on .Com



Who's moving up, who's moving down, it's the same as on .Fr and Spanish one now?
Any reasoning behind it?
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12-05-2019 , 01:35 PM
What do you think about recent changes to spin&go rake and multipliers by PokerStars, guys?
It looks like the new way for take more money from players but with less profit for us IMHO
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12-05-2019 , 04:00 PM
My guess would be that games are still beatable but everyone just lost somewhere between 1-1.5%. Have to see when people/pools start getting sample though.

Change undoubtedly bad for regs.
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12-05-2019 , 09:54 PM
Other than PArtypoker what are the 2 best sites to play spins and why? For Latinamerica
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