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07-22-2015 , 10:18 PM
about spinwiz

I register manually at $30. I would think that 30% of my games have 1 reg, 15% 2 regs and all the rest is vs 2 fishes.
I fail to see the benefits of having spinwiz and sitting in the queue!?
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07-22-2015 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ndoggy
Hey guys, quick question about PT4. you are welcome to tell me to rack off to PT4 support.

i had the trial version for a few days, but not being able to import the chipEV/tourney stat until i purchased the full program was annoying so i ponied up the cash and got it after like 2 days of the trial.

now i have imported the stat, but it keeps telling me 'The query doesnt have a result set'.

anyone else had this issue at all?
sorted this, so no point replying thanks guys
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07-22-2015 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by genher
about spinwiz

I register manually at $30. I would think that 30% of my games have 1 reg, 15% 2 regs and all the rest is vs 2 fishes.
I fail to see the benefits of having spinwiz and sitting in the queue!?
Some people like to sit only certain regs or no regs at all because it decreases variance or they're in a stable or whatever.

At 60s there's also a big increase in reg to fish ratio and the better regs want to avoid each other for obvious reasons.

I do think the fact you're getting those sorts of numbers indicated that people shouldn't be worried about registration software.
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07-22-2015 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by genher
about spinwiz

I register manually at $30. I would think that 30% of my games have 1 reg, 15% 2 regs and all the rest is vs 2 fishes.
I fail to see the benefits of having spinwiz and sitting in the queue!?
If your opposition were totally random and the regs' entries constituted 30%=0.3 of the player pool (as they do in your estimation: 0.3*1 + 0.15*2 = 0.6 regs per 2 opposing seats), then you'd be getting 2-reg games 0.3*0.3 = 0.09 = 9% of the time, 2-fish games 0.7 * 0.7 = 0.49 = 49% of the time (in reality, you say you get 55%) and mixed opposition games 42% of the time.

So if your measurements are based on a sample large enough, I believe that Spinwiz does warp the distribution of your opponents slightly and that you'd probably get 0.5-0.55 reg opps per game instead of 0.6 if the seating were totally random. The 15% percentage of 2-reg games corresponds rather to ~0.8 regs per game.
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07-23-2015 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by genher
about spinwiz

I register manually at $30. I would think that 30% of my games have 1 reg, 15% 2 regs and all the rest is vs 2 fishes.
I fail to see the benefits of having spinwiz and sitting in the queue!?
One thing to note, you probably consider far less people regs than actually use Spinwiz.

If you had a list of Spinwiz users, you probably play games with those people 50-80% of the time.

Spinwiz advantage for you is that you get to have more of a preference of which Spinwiz users you play with and how frequently.

If you only consider 15% of Spinwiz users good, then you just avoid those 15% and play the other 85% and get a high games per hour without having to play the 15% players you don't want to sit that also use the program.

This also puts more pressure on the weaker regs. It's more efficient (IE, weak regs will move down to $15s OR improve their game faster) to avoid the top 15% of regs and play more games vs the bottom 85% of users.
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07-23-2015 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
One thing to note, you probably consider far less people regs than actually use Spinwiz.

If you had a list of Spinwiz users, you probably play games with those people 50-80% of the time.

Spinwiz advantage for you is that you get to have more of a preference of which Spinwiz users you play with and how frequently.

If you only consider 15% of Spinwiz users good, then you just avoid those 15% and play the other 85% and get a high games per hour without having to play the 15% players you don't want to sit that also use the program.

This also puts more pressure on the weaker regs. It's more efficient (IE, weak regs will move down to $15s OR improve their game faster) to avoid the top 15% of regs and play more games vs the bottom 85% of users.
yes that makes sense...I guess I'll have to look more into it
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07-23-2015 , 09:44 AM
Can anyone tell me where the chipEV per tourney stat on pt4 is in the information box? I want to add it and can't find it.

Also, is there a way to see a list of all your prizepools so far? I mean a stat that shows so far out of x games at e.g. 30$, so far you have: a 60$ prizepools, b 120$ prizepools, c 180$, etc.
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07-23-2015 , 05:24 PM
I didn't find either in PT4 so I create a custom stat:
amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys

As for the prize pools, there is program special designed to count the multipliers you hit:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...in-go-1529111/

Cheers !
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07-23-2015 , 06:13 PM
Thanks for the info.

I created the stat tho, and when I put in the information box it doesn't come up in the rectangle for the graph. Do you know why? (other stats do come up if I try to remove or add them)
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07-24-2015 , 08:31 AM
Not really sure but it must be something wrong with the way you create the stat. You could check the settings of one of your standard stat that appears correctly in your rectangle box against the settings you have for your custom stat, I guess?
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07-24-2015 , 02:39 PM
Hey, guys, there were some rumours about 100$ Spins, were they only rumours or there are such plans?
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07-24-2015 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Avenger655
Hey, guys, there were some rumours about 100$ Spins, were they only rumours or there are such plans?
As far as I know it's "only" rumors. But i think they already exist on Pokerstars.fr, so normally its only a matter of time till the come to Pokerstars.com & Pokerstars.eu.
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07-28-2015 , 11:42 PM
man **** spinwiz, second time i clicked close instead of pause and left and it hasn't closed.
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07-29-2015 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by genher
about spinwiz

I register manually at $30. I would think that 30% of my games have 1 reg, 15% 2 regs and all the rest is vs 2 fishes.
I fail to see the benefits of having spinwiz and sitting in the queue!?
I've been messing around 30s spins a bit this month to see what they are all about and having registered manually, I get 1 Spinwiz user 95% of a time (not like they have to be good). Not sure what tricks you are using to get significantly higher # only vs recs.
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07-29-2015 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by be water my friend
As far as I know it's "only" rumors. But i think they already exist on Pokerstars.fr, so normally its only a matter of time till the come to Pokerstars.com & Pokerstars.eu.
can confirm they up and running on .fr
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07-29-2015 , 11:45 AM
Hey guys,

how can i check how many x2, x4 x6 etc.
i hit in HM2 ?
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07-29-2015 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pavels4444
I've been messing around 30s spins a bit this month to see what they are all about and having registered manually, I get 1 Spinwiz user 95% of a time (not like they have to be good). Not sure what tricks you are using to get significantly higher # only vs recs.
He just considers most spinwiz users to not be regs. I don't know if he's right or not, but that's the common explanation when someone registers manually and "gets unknowns a lot." They just don't know who uses the program.
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07-29-2015 , 02:49 PM
Hey guys,is this normal for spin n go?

http://prntscr.com/7yidcz

http://prntscr.com/7yie6j
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07-29-2015 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by luadarko
Hey guys,is this normal for spin n go?

http://prntscr.com/7yidcz

http://prntscr.com/7yie6j
Yeah, it can happen (of course, it depends on the limit).
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07-29-2015 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by luadarko
Hey guys,is this normal for spin n go?

http://prntscr.com/7yidcz

http://prntscr.com/7yie6j
too low cEv
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07-30-2015 , 02:32 AM
Yeah you're going to have a LOT of breakeven or losing 2500 game stretches with that cEV. 50+ it starts to go a lot smoother, 60+ you're in heaven.
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07-30-2015 , 08:52 AM
hey guys, have hm2 and dont know where to click to have graph with Ev chips please help
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07-30-2015 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wandy
hey guys, have hm2 and dont know where to click to have graph with Ev chips please help
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07-30-2015 , 11:51 AM
Hello all,

$100s are up now. Same parameters as the $60.

Enjoy and thanks,
Baard
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07-30-2015 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Hello all,

$100s are up now. Same parameters as the $60.

Enjoy and thanks,
Baard
Not that I expect an answer, but do you honestly think that the rake for 100s should be the same as 15s? I mean you obviously think it's awesome, but maybe, just maybe there are some arguments for lower rake at 100s.....
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