the health and fitness forum really is the nuts. i've learned a ton there. <3 2p2

you still have to admit that nutrition is something that people flip-flop on a ton and there is conflicting info everywhere. i read health & fitness and i still feel that way whenever i venture to sources outside 2p2 maybe im just a fish tho?

definitely agree with last part you wrote though.

my gf's mom has been trying to lose weight for years. she does fad-diet after fad-diet and it doesn't work (it gets worse). right now she is on some ****ed up diet where she cuts her calories down to 800 calories/day with no carbs for a month, then instantly jumps to 1600/day. she is working out regularly on this diet. obv she has zero energy, is unreal moody, and generally seems to hate life atm. it's sad to see, but the reality is that is what most people think losing weight is all about: torturing yourself.

+1

and plz upload a video of you shadow-boxing. lol

the info here on 2p2 fitness forum is very consistent
and you have tons of outside info 'approved' like Lyle Macdonald diet explanation, mark rippetoe books etc search faq's for more

and if u believe in some minority and follow its advice you have to be able to debate it vs more experience ppl in the area, not just read it and take it for granteed; there have been tons of debates about other diets and stuff, u just have to look for it
(regarding the issues with high protein intake, and diets who say high protein intake is bad: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...roversies.html)

but no matter what there will always be persons selling crap diets and other unproved stuff, because ppl like to believe in the mystical, and that they found something where they can have a massive edge vs other ppl (same way krav maga oversells and other stuff)

@hokiegreg: my mom lost 30 lbs until now using slow carb (and she is feeling pretty good about it, having a cheat day per week); now she doesn't even say she's on a diet
Also it seems it helped her with other issues related to age...

Read the whole thread and I love this idea. But I have seen so many different opinions and stuff. NOW WHAT IS A GOOD DIET FOR ME ?

I am not overweight but I really do not eat healthy imo. I have put on some weight the last years. I went from 154 pounds (18 y old) to 176 pounds and I think my diet has to do with that gain.

I dont do any type of sport atm and I think it shows irl. My poker decisions were ALOT better when I ate more healthy and went to the gym and my grades were more consistent.

Tbh, you should hit the gym hard and avoid fast foods, pizzas and such (obv you can eat pizza like once a week if you really really want it)
What is your age too? When we grow older, we cannot have the same weight anyhow because our body changes with age (our "minimum" healthy weight gets higher and higher)
As a conclusion, you don't need to actually follow a diet imo, just healthier eating (more vegetables, less bad carbs) and gym (the well being of going to the gym will make you want to eat healthier even more)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/85...u-post-176665/

and if u want to understand better the basics about building yourself a healthy diet:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...ts-part-1.html

^^ cliffs:
focus on calories intake, and protein intake (calories will decide weather u will gain/lose weigth and by how much, protein will help you mantain your muscles)
and choose the deficit wiselly (meaning you have to calculate how many calories you need to mantein weight, then decide if you are going to cut 10% of that, or 15% or 20%, thats the deficit which will depend on your weight-bf%/goals/activity level)

i wasn't knocking low carb diets (i dont really know enough to). was more noting that my gf's mom is starving herself and has no energy so is just in a constantly bad mood.

that's cool though. congrats to ur mom

I didn't say you were, was just relating to your gf's mom.
My mom has done the same since like always, and this is what worked.
Before she started, i asked her one thing: for one month she was to eat anything she wanted, no diet no nothing, just to get her body on track (she was on a crazy all cabbage diet for 2 weeks)
So after a month of eating a lot, and gaining like 10 pounds she started slow carb (with the same eating a lot policy, but from what she was allowed to)
She never stopped or felt sick or powerless since then
Basically it was an advice
P.S. the diet your gf's mom is now sounds really really bad... Body goes into starvation mode anyways after a huge cut in calorie intake and that stops the process of losing weight
I am by no means specialized in this, but before i started myself to lose weight, i have actually read around 10-12 books about diets, and chose one.
If you want i can translate the email i sent to my mom with what she must do (will take 1-2 days, kinda big) and give it to you

pics of mom or never happend

Yea thats true. I just turned 24 now. The difference in weight obv isnt mind blowing but it disturbs me that general things like walking to the train and stuff feels like an exercise.

I will read all of it and get back to you . Thank you for the information

I'd be interested in in too if you wouldnt mind.

thanks, but there is 0% chance she would ever listen to my advice.

On the "meat will give you cancer" topic, did they ever split meat into white and red meat?
I´m told most of the trouble comes from red meat.

On my own lifestyle:
I read a lot about willpower (its a resource and you can only replenish it with sleep/eating and once you obtained something as a habit, it wont drain your will power supply)
so right now i´m trying to improve myself by adding one habit per month and trying to get it up to unconscious competence(greetings to jared tendler ), because once that is done i can concentrate fully on the next change.
I also realized,that its easier to replace habits than creating new ones. I´m used to watch tv at 8 p.m. so i started working out instead and download whatever i would´ve watched,for later watching.

Sadly i´m too impatient and tried in february to learn speed reading,improve at in game thought process,adding a evening routine and work on my running technique(any1 doing pose running ?) which is stretching me too thinly again. But instead of breaking i cut speed reading out of it and try to split the running technique into smaller steps of changes to make it less strenuos and feel better again.

Cutting out red meat is something i do on the side, because it doesnt really impact my willpower resources as long as i dont have any red meat cravings

Completely cutting out meat might be something worthwhile pursuing in the future but i have a lot of changes incoming that seem a lot more important to me.I want to
-cut out multitasking,
-start doing yoga,
-go back to body weight exercises,
-get my blog running,
-learn to speed read again,
-improve my morning routine,
-improve my sleep habits,
-more balanced meals,
-keeping my apartment tidy,
-stop relying on a schedule(really important to not do it unless every scheduled thing is deeply imprinted in my habits)
-...(a thousand other things i cant think of right now, like learning to read in my mother language...)
Thats a ton already and considering i should do only one of these per month, its gonna be a loooong way untill i can consider adding a vegan diet to my lifestyle.

<3 anjo. epic.

grind... beat off... eat fast food... grind rinse/repeat = health lifestyle imo, isn't that how most the successful regs do it?


j/k though, i'm a pretty huge newb when it comes to committing to being healthy again, I still don't way much but i'm not in nearly the shape i ever was before. Been going to gym, want to get back to it at least 2x / week and start playing tennis way more, really enjoying it, so hopefully will keep that up too.

Haven't read The China Study,but meh i'm pretty against books like that because they are biased. It's pretty obvious that comparing vegetarians/vegans to the rest of the populations is going to show a superiority in their diet,mainly because people who are vegetarians etc eat healthy,while average meat eating person eats a lot of crap.

As to milk being toxic,meh. First of all,it depends how you time your milk/how much milk you drink a day. For short periods of time,like if you do a gallon a milk a day for gains,you'll get over it and it's easy to gain this way. But even tho milk has a pretty low GI,it has a high insulin response.So not a good idea to drink milk between meals.Use soy milk for that.
As for osteoporosis,milk is only slightly acidic,goat milk is slightly alkaline fwiw. And just drink a squeezed lemon/day, body PH problem solved,you won't lose minerals anymore and the calcium in the milk will actually go to good use. And ye ldo,drink organic milk.

And all that talk about meat and nobody is talking about fish/seafood. Love my salmon/tuna/anchovies in salads and seafood ofc. Fish oil also is <3. But try to avoid cod liver oil since it has a pretty high content of vitamin A and can be toxic if you are getting too much Vitamin A. Just eat a carrot/day and you'll have your daily requirement.

Don't have much time to go into detail, but just want to say that unfermented soy products are NOT health foods and should be avoided at all costs. Organic fermented soy, however, is a different story.

Further reading: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ur-health.aspx

I checked out that link and got a question. How is fasting supposed to help me to gain weight? I know that most of the weight is supposed to come from muscle mass, but eating enough is also really important as far as I know.
I just cannot figure out why am I supposed to fast in order to put on 25lbs.

I used to drink soy milk,till like 1 year ago and stopped because i just didn't like the taste and had no point in drinking it. Pretty sure it was organic,1L box was like 3$ or so. And always hated soy products,so not really documented about them,good to know.

will take a more detailed look at the posts in this thread but looks like there is some interesting stuff

atm I have taken a healthy step and moved from eating white/basmati rice to brown rice

sif no pics TGSM, wtf, this is your time to shine!

I never mentioned it but THIS IS the other big factor in why I failed so often especially with my work schedule. I'd have everything planned, all groceries bought and decide to cook meals before or after work. It's easy to say at the time but when you wake up or get home from work cooking is last thing you want to do so then you end up grabbing some crap food.

I never really worked out in a long time but am going to join a gym on my days off. Not only do I want to do cardio to help my heart and stuff but because I've been lazy for so long I'm hoping the feeling of being active also motivates me.

2 food recommendations I have for anyone trying to eat better is Tilapia (fish, good protein, low calorie, low in mercury, and taste good) and Greek Yogurt (No fat, high protein, and taste 1000x better than regular yogurt).

Seafood (not fried imo) is def the nuts. I'm lucky to live in south Louisiana where seafood is plentiful. Fresh redfish and trout and flounder all taste amazing. Crawfish too. I'm not sure on the health of these though tbh. I do really enjoy marinating and cooking tilapia and having a good tuna steak or other types of tuna though. These are really healthy. Anyone familiar with the health benefits of other types of fish? I've found it's a great way to take a break from eating grilled chicken so often.

As far as I know most fish are a lot alike when it comes to nutritional value (high protein, healthy fats, ect.. When it comes to mercury in Fish I'm not sure how harmful it actually is but I try to stay on the safe side anyway and limit the amount of fish high in mercury that I eat.

I never tried marinating tilapia..what types of stuff do you marinate it in?