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04-04-2011 , 01:13 PM
I knew that was sols post before I even saw the sn...lol
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04-04-2011 , 01:24 PM
Anyone here grind $11-$22 turbos?, looking for a study partner to help me out since im just starting out. PM if interested.

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04-04-2011 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by quiquiriqui
well, good to know. is there anything to amicably say as a winner or is it just better to say nothing. obv this is assuming one isnt gaming for a rematch, etc
You are soooooooooooo good looking
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04-04-2011 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill
You are soooooooooooo good looking
hahaha

i have been convinced to no longer say gg on the basis that most people are so insecure about their play/variance that they will auto take insult. too bad, imo, but whatev. poker zings shld be called for, and clever, and "gg" as such fits neither requirement.

ill never stop saying gg to pikoleta tho
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04-04-2011 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Well saying gg to someone who understands that you meant it sincerely and won't take offense to it can't really be bad manners.

But if you know the person would take it badly and it'd be taken as a needle, then it's a bit insensitive to say it, no?

Now it's obviously impossible for you to know if a specific player would respond in a certain way, so it's probably safest to just not say gg (first) if you're the winner. I'd say it back if they say it first, though. This policy sort of makes it hardest to offend someone.

You can just not say gg ever, too, but it can be kind of rude to not say gg back to a reg who just wanted a game, or if you've just regged at the same time and wanted to play it out like true hu ballers.

I mean, okay, if hypothetically you say hello or thank you to a stranger who spoke a different language in which hello/thank you is a rude insult, are you still "very douchey"?

Does this change if you knew there's a chance that it would be taken offensively? By how much? Is this more the fault of the person who said it, meaning no offense, or the person who decided to take offense when none is meant?

Whose fault is it if the person who said it didn't mean offense, and the person who took offense thought the person meant offense?

I personally think people should be careful to not say things that can be taken badly, actually, so I am siding with the former, but I think assuming that people mean offense for no reason is a bit silly, and then insisting that they are being douchebags when clearly they don't mean anything harmful is sort of stubborn. You can make a strong case for saying that even if you don't mean to be rude, it's your job to think about what you're saying and how others would feel about what you say before you say it.

However, "good game" means literally good game and implies that the other person played it well, and this is a usage that is still relevant, and not archaic. If the person, not a gamer, or anyway is not used to every single comment being taken as a childish sarcastic/underhand insult, is it really his fault?

Furthermore is taken as a compliment very often in the gaming environment too, so stop spreading this idea that gg is always an insult in the gaming enviroment. For instance, you say usually gg right before you quit in a sc/wc3/sc2 game, or otherwise it'd be seen as a bit of a rage-quit (or well you say gg if you're korean at the start of a game, apparently, or gl hf if not). At the same time there's this whole "gg no re" as per "Pure Pwnage" meaning "i've won, and I can't be bothered to play you again you're beneath me". You can also say "gg" to describe something that is one sided or decided. It's context relevant, and I think it's your fault if you misread the context into thinking the person meant something as an insult unless the context indicates it as such.
yeah i mean, in summa, ppl will interpret things however suits them best. there's always a chance gg will be seen as an insult since poker is competitive and ppl put their egos on the line.

sometimes if i lay a sick beat on ppl i say "sry, bad luck" which is prob also rly insulting. poker players are such pansies sometimes
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04-04-2011 , 02:24 PM
It's just sad that because it's teh internets that

1. ul
2. lols you got bent over
3. karma
4. dang im sorry

Are all potentially able to be deciphered as meaning pretty much the same thing.
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04-04-2011 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopmichael
Anyone here grind $11-$22 turbos?, looking for a coach to help me out since im just starting out. PM if interested.

Thanks
FYP
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04-04-2011 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Furthermore is taken as a compliment very often in the gaming environment too, so stop spreading this idea that gg is always an insult in the gaming enviroment. For instance, you say usually gg right before you quit in a sc/wc3/sc2 game, or otherwise it'd be seen as a bit of a rage-quit (or well you say gg if you're korean at the start of a game, apparently, or gl hf if not).
Gonna quote this **** because it's true. You pub nubs can stop trying to project the usage of gg as a negative thing in gaming. Especially in league play this is totally untrue as it is very common (so much so that I don't recall people not saying it) to say gg win or lose after the game is over.
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04-04-2011 , 02:46 PM
yeah i always operated w thebrokenatm's interp
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04-04-2011 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer
saying 'gg' can mean a ton of different stuff.

Also:
if you say 'gl' when AI PF and actually muster up the courage to say it sincerely you will win run really good.
Because I used to do it and mean it. Now I don't mean it anymore, and I don't win.
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04-04-2011 , 02:54 PM
i think the important thing is that, like all things, the context is essential to the interpretation. there's not a yes or no answer
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04-04-2011 , 03:26 PM
cool book sol reader
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04-04-2011 , 03:34 PM
saying gg in videogames in only douchey when you are winning and say it before villain says it. for example, you have 4 expos and your zerg army is marching into his only base and you know with 99% certainty that you will crush his feeble army so you type "gg" into chat. well then your a douche. As a matter of respect you should wait for villain to concede the game and let him say "gg" before quitting.

In cards I think its unsportsmanlike to not say gg after winning and losing. At the end of the day we are playing a game, and you should accordingly. Whenever I bust a live MTT I always get up and say "good game everyone, its been a pleasure", or something along those lines (tbh, there are a few times when i will make a remark about the dude getting lucky or something like that, but never anything rediculous). Similarly, when someone busts I tell them "good game, its been a pleasure". Everybody reacts differently to me saying this though, some people (very few) take offence, but the majority say it right back to me.

I think that saying "gg" after losing is a huge sign of confidence, and I would be more cautious towards playing someone like that over a big sample as opposed to someone who says something snide after losing.
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04-04-2011 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
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Furthermore is taken as a compliment very often in the gaming environment too, so stop spreading this idea that gg is always an insult in the gaming enviroment. For instance, you say usually gg right before you quit in a sc/wc3/sc2 game
yes, exactly, you say it when YOU ARE ABOUT TO QUIT, as in when you've lost/about to lose.

you don't ****ing say it when you're winning. People who think otherwise clearly don't understand etiquette in gaming =)

jesus ****ing christ people. This is really easy. I've given you the correct answer, but as always some people just don't get it, no matter how many times you tell them

Saying gg when you have won or when you're winning is only acceptable if your opponent (the loser player) says it first. In fact, if the loser says gg it's bad etiquette not to say gg back.

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Originally Posted by Ronesty
i think the important thing is that, like all things, the context is essential to the interpretation. there's not a yes or no answer
yes there is. I just gave it to you. what is it that you still don't get?

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04-04-2011 , 03:36 PM
i just try not to say anything to anyone. pretty easy solution.
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04-04-2011 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HokieGreg
i just try not to say anything to anyone. pretty easy solution.
your missing out on some really fun conversations then
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04-04-2011 , 03:54 PM
This whole douchey to say gg in "games" thing stems from the narrow gaming scope. You are considering RTS games where the game ends after all structures are destroyed or someone quits, and saying gg as the player winning can be seen as bad form because the game might not actually be over. This would be like in an fps if it's 4v1 and the team with 4 says gg. After the game is officially over though winning or losing is irrelevant to saying gg. So, in order to be like an RTS' situation the HU match would have to be nearly over with an all-pre with winning player as the fav and him saying gg before the board runs out or one guy having 150 chips left.

I never say gg in HU, just think you people carrying over irrelevant stipulations are ridiculous and acting butthurt over a loss.
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04-04-2011 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
yes, exactly, you say it when YOU ARE ABOUT TO QUIT, as in when you've lost/about to lose.

you don't ****ing say it when you're winning. People who think otherwise clearly don't understand etiquette in gaming =)

jesus ****ing christ people. This is really easy. I've given you the correct answer, but as always some people just don't get it, no matter how many times you tell them

Saying gg when you have won or when you're winning is only acceptable if your opponent (the loser player) says it first. In fact, if the loser says gg it's bad etiquette not to say gg back.



yes there is. I just gave it to you. what is it that you still don't get?
Seems more like you don't get it than him to be honest. It's fine saying it when you win if you're doing it out of good sportsmanship and always say it, win or lose. And that's coming from someone who never says it when he wins. It's the people who only say it when they win and aren't being genuine who suck.
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04-04-2011 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill
Seems more like you don't get it than him to be honest. It's fine saying it when you win if you're doing it out of good sportsmanship and always say it, win or lose. And that's coming from someone who never says it when he wins. It's the people who only say it when they win and aren't being genuine who suck.
saying gg when you're winning is just bm, simple as that. It doesn't matter how good sportsmanship you think it is. If you think it's good sportsmanship to spit in your opponents face and berate him after you've won a basketball/football/tennis/whatever game then you would be wrong about that too. The same thing applies here, it doesn't matter how you feel about it, it's just bad mannered. Just how it is
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04-04-2011 , 04:14 PM
You're an idiot, saying gg after winning a HUSNG is the same as saying gg after winning a basketball game not spitting in their face.
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04-04-2011 , 04:19 PM
no you goddamn ******
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04-04-2011 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ThebrokenATM
You're an idiot, saying gg after winning a HUSNG is the same as saying gg after winning a basketball game not spitting in their face.
+1
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04-04-2011 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
no you goddamn ******
lol and he is trying to say its douchey to say gg. way to prove your point
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04-04-2011 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
no you goddamn ******
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04-04-2011 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
saying gg when you're winning is just bm, simple as that. It doesn't matter how good sportsmanship you think it is. If you think it's good sportsmanship to spit in your opponents face and berate them after you've won a basketball/football/tennins/whatever game then you would be wrong about that too. The same thing applies here, it doesn't matter how you feel about it, it's just bad mannered. Just how it is
Nah, this isn't true, and it's fine to say it when it's out of good sportsmanship.

Also, I state that saying "gg" after winning with the intent of telling the other person it was a well played game is fine. You say this is wrong, and then use an example of how spitting in someones face and berating them would also be wrong if I thought it was good sportsmanship.

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Definition of SPORTSMANSHIP
: conduct (as fairness, respect for one's opponent, and graciousness in winning or losing) becoming to one participating in a sport
We're clearly never going to agree on this though so if you want to have the last word you can quote me one more time about how I'm wrong and I'll let you have it.
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