Figured I could ask if this would be a good idea... or I could just make it myself and see if anyone objects.

So here it is. Have a beginner's question? Want to know what size bankroll you need or whether or not to raise 67s preflop? Post your non-thread deserving questions here!

Let me start this thread up. I have like 5k hands of nl50 with pretty good results. I play nl50 hu still and I was discussing table selection with Cwar on aim. He said that 99% of nl50 players are bad and i won't need table selection. We elaborated a little bit, but i was curious if somebody else could elaborate.

And also, after watching Nemo's most recent video, i was wondering if his winrate is higher with the limping strategy...

ok thanks.

icarus,

what do you need elaborated on? the players are really terrible, so you don't need to actively table select because there is no benefit to spending time trying to find the absolute worst opponent possible. you should be able to find the 1% regs pretty quickand quit them (if you want to).

Given that it seems unlikely beginners will be allowed to write their most stupid questions in their own threads, I think this is nice. I also think it would be nice if the moderators could put the OP of locked threads in here (and naturally saying they have done so in these threads).

Most are pretty bad, i only started plying again a few days ago but up about 11 buyins in that time. If you really want to find the worst players look for the ones who buy in for $23.15 or similar to that... i spent a day searching them and stacked most of them.

i repost:

hello ,

i would like to know...[HUSNG]

what are the mistakes that bad players do at theses different stakes?:

50$
100$
200$
500$
1000$

where the gap is more difficult?
guy who play husng 200$ can switch without lost money at nl200$?
who are the stars at high limit today?(i know liv112 and fl39 on fulltilt)

Is assuming that all people who sit and wait are regs and/or that sit with me for full amount are sharks a good assumption? Or poor on my part?

there are a few good regs even at nl50 i think.
and 5k hands is nothing.

it's just hard to get hands at hu, i mean honestly, how do u grind 30k hands playing two hu tables a month? (that statement is dumb, i'm bad at math)

often this is true, but finding the one huge fish who is waiting with a 500bb stack is quite a nice thing...
if i don't know the player, i just sit in and play 20 hands and quit him if he seems good (while sitting & waiting at another table).

and btw: not all regs are good.

Bankroll Q

Min. Buy-ins at 50-200NL?

v. v. general. Bad players are bad players. I feel like there are more bad lags than standard weak-passives at $200+ but it's been a while and I'm not sure. Each bad player makes their own mistakes. Gap between $115/$230 is the hardest.... used to be $230/$570 but the $345 might soften that. Even if you are good at HUSNG you are likely not good at cash until you've played a lot of it, so no, you can't switch. This is because HUSNGs are played with short stacks. As for stars... I dunno, watch the HS games.

did you beat 6max? to which level? do you have HU exp.?

if you never playe HU cash i would start with 30buyins at least

How do I play someone who likes to min-bet almost every street regardless of pot size? Also note that these players will pot every so often too.

Thanks.

A profitable play I use is too ignore it (at least if they do it so often that building a range isn't really an option). Make your same sized cbet, they're often just giving you an extra BB.

On the turn and river you can often treat their bets as checks because the pot is so big compared to the bet. Make some call downs with Q/J high. If you would have bet for value, RAISE. Raise folding vs. these guys is just like bet/folding.

Don't get so annoyed by their constant betting that you always raise, and still try to pay attention to what they are betting with. It is generally slightly better than their checking range. What the pot sized bets mean varies greatly from person to person so you have to call some and find out (It's generally separated between nuts/air {nuts may mean top pair though}).

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treat it as a check until you have a strong read on his bet sizing.

How often do you guys double barrel in HUSNG's? I always find myself c-betting the flop and then getting called and just having to give up on the turn and forefit the pot. How do you adjust to this, wait for a good hand and value bet like crazy? I play $10 and $20 games btw.

if you find yourself doing this a lot you need to do two things:

1. stop Cbetting the flop so much (doesn't mean you have to give up the pot btw)

2. follow through on the turn more often when you do Cbet the flop, and if necessary the river too.

Yeah I've been trying to c-bet less frequently recently which helps to trap sometimes too when you flop a monster. I try to double barrel sometimes but I hate losing lots of chips with a nothing hand because I dont wan't to give up the pot.

Micky08, this is a routine problem you should learn how to solve. It's an adaptation problem. If you get good at solving them, you'll get good at HU poker. If they call too wide on the flop, there are a number of options, including both of Montezuma's suggestions, as well as tightening up preflop and varying your cbet sizing. Whenever you're playing, think about what villain's optimal strategy would be against you, and be mindful of it. Once villain starts coming close to that optimal strategy, you better change up how you're playing.

Thanks for the good advice. Recently I have been trying harder to adapt to different playing styles and I think I'm getting a little better at it. I'm still winning but not as much as I probably could be, but I can only get better. Had a good session tonight playing 14 games and only losing 3.

Agree with this, but i should point out that such broad generalisations are not necessarily the most useful for a SSNL HUer.

had forgotten about tightening up PF. good point. I would add that in theory, as you get better at exploiting your opponents, an opponent's loose calling range on the flop will NOT be enough to justify NOT having a very wide PF raising range. He would need to 3bet light PF, call or C-R lighter on the flop, AND get more aggressive on later streets. As a halfway house against a station though, tightening up PF is ok,.

explain how this would work. I'm assuming you mean according to hand strength, correct?

oh, and btw OP, don't slowplay at SSNL. just don't. you'll thank me.

Yea I still advocate raising 90%+ in HU Cash (erm, I'm in the group that thinks 100% vs. most opponents until you actually start playing someone good), in HUSNGs I sometimes open as tight as 70% or so if villain is as Micky described and stacks have become 25BB or less because we can't be as creative post flop and these guys are just going to get money in whenever you want them to. Short stacks means we only have 2 to 3 streets of betting not 4 and that makes a huge difference in what hands we can profitably play in a raised pot. I can't think of any conditions where I'd advocate tightening up PF in HUCash, but that's just because I'm more than happy to start playing 3bet pots in position 120+BB deep and starting a 4bet dynamic.

As for varying your cbet sizing, I mean varying it according to how villain responds, not hand strength. Like, if we're cbetting 2/3 and villain calls a lot. Why not try 1/2 pot or 3/4 pot to see if anything changes? I do this trick alot in the 25/50 level. I'll cbet 100 or 125 based on stacksizes and opponent tendencies after minraising preflop, and then on a board like K94r where I expect a decent number of c/r and I have T7o, I might bet 50 instead. Some people tank and fold because no one wants to be the person that gets caught in a trap.

EDIT: Obv. I just typed T7o there... I use this play like rock/paper/scissors. I decide how I think villain would react with x, y, z hands and way that up against a regular cbet and if I think I can win the leveling game by doing something weird I will. So sometimes, the very first time I do it, I have KJ and am getting it in for stacks.

Where should I be aiming to profit against constant limpers? Specifically ones that will limp call almost anything pre flop (turning your hand face up if you decide to only raise with stronger hands), and minbet or bet pot on every flop where you checked to their limp.

Their theory is they are spending only 1.5BB's to make 1.5BB's profit on every button (half a blind to complete, 1 blind to minbet flop), so they can easily fold to my raise when I have something, pickup the blinds cheaply when I don't and fold to the flop bet, and continue on when I have a hand and they think they have me covered.

Should I be raising a lot PF? Raising their flop bet a lot? Floating their flop bet a lot? Just folding a lot, and thanking them for playing tiny pots in position?