oh ok, so in general as a principle should I be check raising flops depending on what exactly? I'm guessing that I might want to do it when I think he'll just fold if I lead out, when I want to increase the price he pays to see the turn and get more value for my hand, or to make him fold a better hand.. does this make sense? When does it make sense to c/r as a bluff?

sorry for the newbie questions but this is the beginner's thread right?

ps. tnx greatblue for the analysis just saw the post

Yea, Dboy is the man but the article is partially outdated.

At the very least I think we can provide better information now than three years ago when he wrote it.

If you have any general OOP questions just post them in here, there's at least a handful of guys that regularly read and post in this thread that should be able to answer those questions well.

Is the over/under "never" on when the hu cash guys will edit their FAQ?

i'll take over "never"
unless they just delete it, since like 90% of url's in there are sng discussions

hmm I was reading the callisto / melanie weisner well and it started off cos she had such good profit at the super turbos after 2500 games

talk about variance, she seems to have lost all of it back at the 6000 game mark but guess she's clawing it back now.. but sharkscope has her at 0% ROI

are there any graphs of ppl with super turbos at 10,000+ games that show a good ROI?

sounds like you shoult more concentrate on value beating.
that is how you win matches. and not when you try to bluff your opponent
out of every hand. this simply wont work.

checkraising depends on my opponent type.
but in general at the beginning of the match i checkraise only for value TP+.
and to look how he response.
if hes calling your checkraises too light i only use it to get more bets in the pot when i have a good hand. or to protect my hand.
two pair or a set on a ultra wet flop where iam sure my opponent bets when i check.
i do it somtimes as trap when i know my opponent folds when i lead out and i have a good hand.

against agressive players who bet every flop you can checkraise the boards you normaly wanne cbet. but dont overuse it and balance it with value hands too.

against passive players you can do this with low flusdraws couse there is some fold equity.

against player who hate to fold use it to value town them.


hope i havent too much leaks in this advice

This hand just happened:

Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: t1510 75.50 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1490 74.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Q T
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 4 J K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB raises to t180, Hero raises to t1430 all in



Is this super standard, or am I total donk? It feels like getting it in on flop with an open ender should be standard - we're behind any made hand equity-wise, but I think the fold equity makes this +ev right? I mean say we must make our straight to win (and ignoring the possibility of our Q being good if we pair it). We have a 32% chance of making it by the river... if we expect him to fold at least 18% of the time in this situation it's +ev right?

This is without any strong reads that say he only checkraises with the nuts and thus will never ever fold. And even then, it might still be +ev to get it in because people do random crazy **** (especially at this stake)?

don't forget that at that stake, people will call with any pair. basically, you're right that you can shove hands like that when FE makes it +EV to do so

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58...boards-454044/

This thread is about a year old but still has some tidbits of good info

I'm thinking of retiring from reg speeds and playing turbos exclusively. I work a full time job and at this rate, with the 35 minute games and all, my bankroll is too slowly inching forward. I also feel the faster structure fits my game better. I was wondering if anyone can point me to any threads discussing the in-game differences. I'm already familiar with Nash and such. I'm just talking about general changes I need to make considering the quickly ascending blinds. Any transition threads out there?

I think calling is better this deep.

What's your plan on a non A or 9 turn? A heart on turn gives us essentially same equity as we have on the flop where a non heart cuts our equity drastically. Just curious.

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
Hero (BTN/SB): t1720 57.33 BBs
BB: t1280 42.67 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A T
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t240) 3 Q 3 (2 players)
BB bets t150, Hero raises to t480

He was tight pre especially OOP, this was maybe the third hand he re-raised with pre. I had folded quit much against his 1/2 potsized cbets when I were OOP.

This hand I though that he would either fold or call with A3 pre so the only 3's he could have was 33 but I doubt he would re-raise with that hand. The only Q's he would raise pre are AQ, QQ and maybe KQ.

I'm afraid of QQ, AQ, KQ, AA, AA
Not sure if he would go further with a smaller PP.

Am I stupid?

Villain seemed like a pretty straightforward player, he was taking long to play I think he was multitabling.. he was limping his junk and raising all his semi-decent cards. He called any raise with anything but junk. Any comments please on these 2 hands?

I'd call the flop in hand 1 and raise in hand 2. Lots of hands that will call us there.

hand 1 just call flop imo; hand 2 i think i play it the same

Why are you not raising the flop? Do you think most of his range is weighed towards weak showdownpotentail and not J's and draws? I have no idea what an average player's mindonk range is tbh.

by draws you mean a gutter right? we block QT for one side of his straightdraw so our equity vs anything is massive
there's also not that much scarecards for Jx so we will get a lot of value on most turn/river combo's anyway from that
if he has airballz, we can just hope that
1) he either fires again
2) he picks up something on turn that we can get value from (be it a flushdraw or pair)

Is there a way one can see the players sitting at the table directly from the lobby instead of opening up the tournament on PS?

I've just started to play on PS and I've used to play on FTP where such a feature is available.

I figured that if we want our opponent's stack we have to raise the flop. If we call the donk and villain check-calls the next 2 streets and we bet 160 and 360 we only get in about half our stack. If we raise the flop however -which doesn't seem all that strong imo since we're facing a mindonk- we can get our stack in by the river. Villain might even shove a small % of the time with a draw (?)

I thought that the value you gain by stacking Jx would be bigger than the bluffs you might induce or the turns that wil improve villain because the pot will be smaller and the mistakes villain makes will cost him less chips. If villain decides to spew after we raise he will also make a bigger mistake (chipwise) than had we just called.

Assuming Jx will always pay you off you lose about 500 chips by flatting the flop. I guess in the end it depends on how big a part Jx is of villain's range and how much chips we win out of the other parts of his range that we would not gain by raising. Tbh I have no clue what either of those values could be.

It is very possible that this post makes no sense at all, but I don't immediately realise why flatting is the better play.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 31.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1560)
Hero (SB) (t1440)

Hero's M: 48.00

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, Q
Hero bets t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 3, 10, 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB raises to t160, Hero raises to t440, BB calls t280

Turn: (t1000) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t1060 (All-In), Hero calls t940 (All-In)

very first hand vs unknown. Std

how can it be the first hand when you have different sized stacks?

sorry, 2nd one. But still, what is a standart line in this spot? to call and reavuate on later streets or raising is also fine? On a rainbow flop I wouldn't have 3bet villain but I wonder what is a better option on a 2 flush board.

I was a pretty solid STT grinder about a year ago. I am thinking about moving to HU SNG's. I cashed out almost my entire roll so I only have about $550 left. My goal is only to make $500-$1000 a month. I feel i could easily do this playing STT's but I am pretty burned out on them at the moment so HU it is. I know it may take time so I just want to learn as much as I can (without busting my roll) until the 1st of the year.

Few questions.....

What level should I start at?

What site should I subscribe to if any?

Is a coach needed?


I will be playing on PS btw and any other help is greatly appreciated.

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players

BB: t1480 74 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1520 76 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Q Q
Hero raises to t50, BB calls t30

Flop: (t100) 6 7 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t70, BB calls t70

Turn: (t240) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t180, BB raises to t360, Hero calls t180

River: (t960) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t350

Second hand is my range ok? Should I include twopairs?

77-66,44,AcKc,AcJc,AcTc,Ac9c,Ac8c,Ac7c,Ac6c,Ac5c,Ac3c ,Ac2c

Im gonna start working on my husng now, since i have not been playing so much in my life and mostly railed HS players, watched trainingvideos etc. and never managed to start grinding really.

Im flat broke IRL and got like $70 on a no deposit account on ipoker, and my goal is to grind atleast 20 x $2.10 nlhe husng per day.

Does this sound like an okay plan for a beginner who wanna improve and build a roll to move up in games?

Any other tips? Just read posts here and post hands?
Also ive reinstalled windows and just got HEM, would people maybe recognise leaks just from me uploading a picture of my stats (only got 1k hands so far)?