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02-11-2017 , 05:21 PM

ficilan

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Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 434

PokerStars - $6.51+$0.49|20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 17.75 BB
SB: 19.75 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 34.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 7

Hero checks, SB bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (8 BB, 2 players) Q

Hero checks, SB bets 5 BB

flop? turn?

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02-15-2017 , 02:04 AM

LordSheldor

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 12

What % you think he is easing here PF? If tight you shouldn't defend. I don't typically defend 86o HU here, unless villain is raising too wide.
As played, I assume villain is loose, so why not c/shove on flop? You have decent chances vs an ace, and you have a flush draw blocker.

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02-15-2017 , 12:59 PM

obbudsman

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,472

Standard flat pre, also vs a tighter minraiser I guess. I x/c flop readless, but x/r should be fine. Fold turn.

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02-16-2017 , 08:52 AM

none888

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xraise imo is terrible, c/c flop, c/f turn

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02-16-2017 , 09:31 AM

Alladin

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Dont we have enpugh implied odds to call on turn? Is that because there is 2 fd possibilities?

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02-16-2017 , 09:58 AM

none888

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you have bad outs, even T non flush brings better straights

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02-16-2017 , 10:06 AM

obbudsman

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Even if your 8 outs would be clean (which they clearly aren't) and Villain would shove 100% of rivers, you still don't have odds to call the turn.

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02-16-2017 , 01:39 PM

Alladin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by obbudsman

Even if your 8 outs would be clean (which they clearly aren't) and Villain would shove 100% of rivers, you still don't have odds to call the turn.

We need 14% equity in this case and we had 16% if outs were clear

But yes this is obviously fold. I didnt notice that there would be less than a half pot bet behind otr.

What is stack size you would call if we assume oesd outs were clear? Lets say we were 25bb deep at the beginning and same betsizes, would you call?

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02-16-2017 , 03:03 PM

obbudsman

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We need 18,7% in that case right? Not 14%.

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02-16-2017 , 03:50 PM

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Alladin

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5÷(17.75x2)=0.1408

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02-16-2017 , 04:15 PM

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obbudsman

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100/((8+5+8.75)/5+1)=18.69

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02-17-2017 , 02:38 AM

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Alladin

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Could you explain your calculations? What is that 5+1?

I think I can be wrong because I calculated we investigate 5 and the end pot would be 35.5
Damn I'm confused

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02-17-2017 , 02:58 AM

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obbudsman

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((8+5+8.75)/5=4.35)
So you get 1:4.35 odds. To come to a percentage, you add 1 and devide 100 by this sum (5.35).

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02-17-2017 , 05:40 AM

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Alladin

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Looks like you are absolutely correct. My bad. I included our river stack in to the winnings that was my bad.

So it is 5/(turn pot after our call + villains river stack)

5/(18+8.75) =0.18 = 18%

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