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11-23-2013 , 09:45 AM
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First hand of the game, readless.
Is there a possibility to call that river?

    Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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    SB: 500 (25 bb)
    Hero (BB): 500 (25 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 7
    SB raises to 40, Hero calls 20

    Flop: (80) 8 Q A (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB checks

    Turn: (80) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets 40, SB calls 40

    River: (160) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets 80, SB raises to 420 and is all-in, Hero folds




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    Second game. I have 9 hands on him, he cbet once, raised my cbet once
    That raise on the T confused made me wonder. 2p combinations would do that / JT maybe
    Could he raise a FD like that ?

      Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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      Hero (BB): 595 (19.8 bb)
      SB: 405 (13.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J 9
      SB completes, Hero checks

      Flop: (60) 3 8 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB checks

      Turn: (60) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets 30, SB raises to 120, Hero calls 90

      River: (300) 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB bets 255 and is all-in, Hero folds




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      Thanks for any feedback
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      11-23-2013 , 12:57 PM
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      don't bet the turn in first hand, as played snapfold.
      second hand you should bet the turn bigger. then i would 3bet jam. imo he cannot have enough value hands and he can reasonably have some draws or bluffs.
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      11-25-2013 , 04:11 AM
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      In the first hand I would check the turn.in the second a raise to 85-90 pre is more profitable.but as played I would bet 35-40 on the turn and snap 3bet shove.
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      11-25-2013 , 08:51 PM
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      Hand 1: easy fold

      Hand 2: this is a little bit more tricky, we could have lead otf; as played I I'm thinking about calling on the river
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      11-26-2013 , 06:28 AM
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      Hand 1

      Betting the turn is debatable, I see no value at all in betting the river.


      Hand 2. I quite like leading the flop here, it hits a limping range quite hard, plenty of hands/draws to get value from. As you played it, I am just getting it in on the turn, but calling the turn then folding the river seems a crime. What was your plan when you called? To just fold if he jammed any river you didn't improve on?
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      11-26-2013 , 07:06 AM
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      1st hand, dont bet turn, as played ez fold

      2nd bet flop, as played jam turn
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      11-26-2013 , 10:57 AM
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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Torskus
      Hand 1

      Betting the turn is debatable, I see no value at all in betting the river.


      Hand 2. I quite like leading the flop here, it hits a limping range quite hard, plenty of hands/draws to get value from. As you played it, I am just getting it in on the turn, but calling the turn then folding the river seems a crime. What was your plan when you called? To just fold if he jammed any river you didn't improve on?
      I wasn't expecting him to jam that river, I would have called a half pot bet.
      And yea, I see now that the best way would have been to go AI on the turn.

      Anyway, thanks for the feedback
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      11-26-2013 , 08:51 PM
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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Vexx
      I wasn't expecting him to jam that river, I would have called a half pot bet.
      And yea, I see now that the best way would have been to go AI on the turn.

      Anyway, thanks for the feedback
      Sorry man, I'm no superstar or anything, didn't mean to come over as a dick. Something I've learned is to try and think ahead. It's almost always going to be a jam on the river with the stack sizes.

      How you played it, kinda sick, but I don't think you can make hero folds.
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      11-28-2013 , 09:26 AM
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      hand 1 c/c turn and fold river

      hand 2 lead flop ~40 hand looks fine after this
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