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11-03-2011 , 09:39 AM
Villain seems like an alright reg. He has seen me double barrel bluff IP with only a gutterball in a raised pot.



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $57.67 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10962872

Hero (BB): 1,453 (36.3 bb)
SB: 1,547 (38.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A J
SB raises to 98, Hero raises to 240, SB calls 142

Flop: (480) K J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets 180, SB calls 180

Turn: (840) 4 (2 players)
Hero ?
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11-03-2011 , 10:50 AM
Bet more on the flop
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11-03-2011 , 10:56 AM
bet small the turn and check river imo but i want listen other opinion
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11-03-2011 , 05:15 PM
I expect villain to raise KQ, KJ, K9, J9,KT(?) in this spot cos he can`t give you free card with such a small bet and call you with AT,A9,Jx,QT,9T,KT(?). So i actually shove turn and hope to get called by weaker J or get crushed by staight. I also expect to get a lot of folds from weaker hands which has some equity. I hate ch/f, b/f and folding river. because he can turn his gutter into a bluff. Not sure about b/c.

Also, i like betting more on flop.

Actually you shouldn`t listen to me since i`m $7 b/e fishreg just posting this because i believe it improves my own game.
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11-03-2011 , 05:32 PM
I think you may need to triple-barrel this to win it...
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11-03-2011 , 11:07 PM
villain's stats OTB pre? 2,5x was his standard sizing under 40bb deep or hes been mixing it up? ur stats pre vs him in BB?
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11-04-2011 , 03:58 AM
By betting the flop small you keep is range really wide here so as played I think there is a ton of value in betting turn.

do we know how wide he defends 3bets? If he defends fairly tight pre I think that benefits our hand in this situation because:

K9-KQ, J9 are not likely flatting this flop (assume hes 4betting all potential sets).

As played vs an average range, I am betting turn here around 330 for value here and expecting a ton of folds. Jamming any non T-Q river.
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11-04-2011 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by greenbast
By betting the flop small you keep is range really wide here so as played I think there is a ton of value in betting turn.

do we know how wide he defends 3bets? If he defends fairly tight pre I think that benefits our hand in this situation because:

K9-KQ, J9 are not likely flatting this flop (assume hes 4betting all potential sets).

As played vs an average range, I am betting turn here around 330 for value here and expecting a ton of folds. Jamming any non T-Q river.
I disagree with you saying that strong Kx and 2 pair aren't flatting flop. If hes any good and thinks he has the best hand and you have a fair bit of air in your range obviously its in his best interests to flat and let you barrel of your airballs.

There is a ton of gutshots/overcards+gutshots/pairs that we beat+random straight draws that he will float flop with hoping to take it away on later streets. For this reason I think we should go into check call mode.

Although I also like betting turn smallish/check folding river, I prefer c/c turn and river.
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11-04-2011 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bunzablood
I think you may need to triple-barrel this to win it...
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