vilain is break even, flats a lot of 3bet but not put pressure too much. He is def able to play back in some spot tought, hes not a super good thinking player but hes thinking.

I know this is not much reads....i played him in the past, i dont remember hands exactly but i dont think he will go crazy with total air on this board, he can def go broke with hands with good equity like overs and spade, gutter and spade etc.

Quick line chk on all streets please, in game, i was like i can play each street differently but still dont know which line is optimal...I was thinking on bluff shoving non-spade river on a lot of card just cuz i think hes showdown value range will content a lot of 9x and i dont think he can hero call too much with my line (?)

Also, i was chk/crying fold river cuz i dont think this player hes able to turn something into bluff there.

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BTN/SB: t1560 52 BBs
Hero (BB): t1440 48 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 8 8
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t165, BTN/SB calls t105

Flop: (t330) 7 9 T (2 players)
Hero bets t195, BTN/SB calls t195

Turn: (t720) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t295, BTN/SB calls t295

River: (t1310) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

your chances of not getting overcards are 13% by flop, 6.5% by turn, 3% by river.

just check wikipedia before 3betting 88 (unless villain is a mega station obv)

mmm ok tx, others thought pls (postflop)

why did you 3bet pf?

1. Versus 80% of vilains, i 3bet 88 about 75% of the time at thoses stacks sizes
2. I had 3bet him already twice on 4 or 5 opens, he calls 1 time (fold flop)and fold the other one, chance of him 4bet bluff are good
3. Game flow
4. He plays enought str8forward postflop so far to be confortable playing 88 oop in 3bet pot

Sry for not saying that in OP but my post was on postflop, not why i decide to 3bet 88 preflop.

1. do you think this is a good play?

2. so.. you're 5 betting shipping?

3. how many hands do you have on him at these levels? probably not many and you're at 15/30 in a turbo (the first level..) so how much game flow could there be?

4. then check flop.

1. lol ur a huge nit setminer
2. mmm u think?
3. wtf how can u argue on game flow
4.ah

I don't think it's good to 3 bet someone who will call your 3bets wide because it's difficult to play it postflop..

I think we have to check the flop for pot control..If he shoves on this flop which will happen a lot we will have to fold.

As played, on the turn we have to check fold or check call depending on reads...

I think river is played well because he can have QK with Q of spades or maybe even KJ with J of spades. Either way, there isn't much value to be had except for maybe a 9 without a spade. If you know he's shoving any T or QK, JQ, KJ with one spade, maybe there is value to be had on the river?

1. so? at least i won't be in tough decisions like this early..
2. 3bet/folding 88 is terrible. i would only 3bet unless i was 90% sure that he'd 4bet light so i could 5bet ship.
3. cause it's the first level. 20 hands do not make a game flow.
4.

I think its ok to 3bet 88 (edit: when you know what his raising/calling3bet range, if he's unknown calling is better obv). But I dont like turn bet size, either bet more or check imo. I'd probably check.

i have 1080 left, more is basacly a ship, u ship turn for value(not too sure)...? Anything between my size and a ship is commiting and wont allow me to have FE if i want to ship river bluff

i guess u chk to chk/call?

edit: more i think about it more i like c/c turn

check turn.
3bet is fine,so what if an overcard comes it's not the end of the world,plus you get to stack smaller PPs often when they ship over your 3bet.

Why did you 3bet so small?

I think I check the turn, I expect villain to check behind a lot and the value we might get is very thin I think.

3bet is too small vs someone who's flatting them a lot. You're going to have too hard of a time postflop whenever he decides to make a hand or just want to hassle you. Overcards coming like always, calling range = huge pre. I think a flat is best, 88 is about my cutoff and if I did 3bet it I'd make it bigger, like 210 of smth.

I like 3-betting bigger, but I don't like the reasoning. Making it easier to play post OOP is a fine argument, but I'm not even sure if decreasing our stack-to-pot ratio does that. I think more important is that it's the place to extract value, because we often pot-control post.
If you think about it, the most likely hands that Villain will exclude from his flatting range (78, A5 type of stuff) are the hands we actually want him to flat with. "Narrowing villain's range" will just make it stronger. I still think we should raise more for value.

As for post, c-bet is good, but I like c/c turn more. Villain was said to not put much pressure on us and I don't see much value nor FE in that bet.

I probably check flop too.

Do you like c/r on this flop? I thought about it, but I don't think people will bet out here often unless pretty strong?

3bet/GII is fine tho 88 is about the bottom of my range 4 that. I make it at least 180 tho esp. since he's been flatting a lot.

I'm not sure what to do on the flop but cbetting is prob fine. As played check turn & river