$50 regspeed, AA 1st hand and we get c/r
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Merge, $50 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): 1,440 (72 bb)
BB: 1,560 (78 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A
A
Hero raises to 60, BB calls 40
Flop: (120) 4
T
9
(2 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets 60,
BB raises to 135,
Hero raises to 400, BB calls 265
Turn: (920) 8
(2 players)
BB bets 188,
Hero raises to 980 and is all-in, BB calls 792
River: (2,880) J
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
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on turn I figure if he has QJ...oh well but if he has QT/JT he will call a shove
I also assumed his lead on turn was a blocking bet
thoughts?
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Seems std to me. He's calling with so many worse hands, ya we crushed a lot, but I don't see what else to do, and flatting sucks.
I'd prob bet bigger on the flop the first time.
Last edited by Regret$; 02-01-2012 at 04:05 PM.
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his c/r size and turn lead size make me suspicious..
i think your play is fine, but I am not sure he will call with QT/JT.
I am definitely folding JT,QT because your line looks super strong.
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Yeah wp, I don't see many 2p combos in his range. QJ is possible but so are QT or JT, so fine play imo
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Id like to use this hand as an example of when we have a good hand, thats not nutted, but villain tell us that he has a hand, its not a great hand, and he wont fold.
we know this because
a) he checks raises, and then calls a 3b (he is saying, ok, I have a hand here)
b) he bets a blocker bet on the turn (I still have a hand, and I want to see the river, but for cheap is possible)
Given that information, and the fact that we beat all Tx, I think shoving here is the best play, which it was. Vilain had KT but I figured him for more of a QT/JT hand
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Once he raised on flop, I think he shoulda gone broke instead of just flatting oop. It's not like he can find a fold in later streets anyway, plus the flop has some draw (although it's rainbow).
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I would 3b a bit to bout 300 otf. As played, sigh shove and run into QJ. Don think
We can Lay it down with this SPR
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I think T9 and QJ shove flop a huge % of time, so i like this as played, though i might cbet more like 75-80 since it'll hit his flatting range decently well
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say if we are betting bigger on flop say 100 into 120 and get raised, is jamming his raise ok too? or is that read dependent
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^ Not sure what your thought process is to ask "is jamming ok".
But anyway betting 100 into 120 is not gonna be great on this flop texture; it's pretty dry so 1/2 pot is a more optimal sizing. We get called wider and we allow villain to c/r bluff more often.
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I think betting 100 is too much fosho, but by betting more than halfpot we get more out of his hands that we only get 1 street from, J8/78/4x/Ax/maybe9x. And 9x/Tx/QJ arent really folding anyway... No?
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Hmm, I don't think this is a dry flop. If he has KQJT pick two (which is a big part of his defending range), this is a great flop from his POV, as he has either pair or overs+draw. All those 87 97 98 hands aren't folding anyway either.
That said I don't mind a bigger cbet on flop, at least 80 ish.
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i guess what im asking is if the line was this......
BB checks, Hero bets 100, BB raises to 240?, Hero raises all in?
is jamming his raise of 240 ok? could be a stupid question just a different way i thought of it, flame away
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It's not a "stupid" question per se, but then again it kinda is because no one is probably going to advocate betting 100 on the ****in flop. You have control over that so don't do it. C/r range after such a large cbet is almost never gonna be bluff and reduces the amount of 1 pair hands villain does it with. It's probably an OK shove but just dont bet 100 ffs
