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5 Hands i didn't know how to play. 22-33$ Sng. 5 Hands i didn't know how to play. 22-33$ Sng.

10-04-2010 , 04:28 AM
Hi. Was making analysis of my play and got stuck with a few hands i really had doubts about. Here they are:

1.

Opp played 73% hands OOP, but his donk was only 15%. I felt uncomfortable on pretty much all clubs and overcard turns and rives, so decided to push. Is this bad?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $40(BB) Replayer
($1,930)
Hero ($1,070)

Dealt to Hero 6 6

Hero raises to $80, calls $40

FLOP ($160) 2 5 9

bets $120, Hero raises to $990 (AI), calls $870

TURN ($2,140) 2 5 9 2

RIVER ($2,140) 2 5 9 2 7


2.

Opp's donbet was 12% and he didn't seem too aggro.

In this one, i thought, when analysing that i could've done one of either: 3bet\fold flop or bet\fold turn. I think my river fold was normal, wasn't it?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,687)
($1,313)

Dealt to Hero J T

calls $25, Hero checks

FLOP ($100) 5 7 T

Hero bets $50, raises to $100, Hero calls $50

TURN ($300) 5 7 T 4

Hero checks, bets $300, Hero calls $300

RIVER ($900) 5 7 T 4 3

Hero checks, bets $863 (AI), Hero folds

wins $900


3.

No specific reads on Opp on this one, his AF was 5. Fold river? No cbet since his fold to cbet was 30% only.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
($1,135)
Hero ($1,865)

Dealt to Hero 2 K

Hero raises to $60, calls $30

FLOP ($120) 7 A T

checks, Hero checks

TURN ($120) 7 A T K

bets $80, Hero calls $80

RIVER ($280) 7 A T K 7

bets $175, Hero calls $175


4.

Opp is fairly passive, donk bet is 13%
In this one i was really lost. This i assume is a raise flop, bet\fold turn? As played, is this just a call on river?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $40(BB) Replayer
($1,505)
Hero ($1,495)

Dealt to Hero J J

Hero raises to $80, calls $40

FLOP ($160) 2 Q 9

bets $160, Hero calls $160

TURN ($480) 2 Q 9 T

checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($480) 2 Q 9 T K

bets $480, Hero raises to $960, calls $480


5.

Opp played 60% hand oop, was average aggro postflop, although fold to cbet was 70%. I assume i should double barrel here. What do we do is he raises turn?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
($1,485)
Hero ($1,515)

Dealt to Hero Q J

Hero raises to $60, calls $30

FLOP ($120) K Q K

checks, Hero bets $90, calls $90

TURN ($300) K Q K 6

checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($300) K Q K 6 A

bets $300, Hero calls $300

Last edited by If6was9; 10-04-2010 at 04:42 AM.
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10-04-2010 , 04:35 AM
damn dude i started reading but is so painful to read posted hands like this (i know, im lazy =p)

villains are not even the same, plz make a thread for each hand
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10-04-2010 , 04:41 AM
Not really a dude, but oh well Isn't it even worse to make 5 different posts? I separated each hand from another clearly and described opponents..Ok, if i get a couple more requests to make a separate threads for each one - i will.
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10-04-2010 , 04:42 AM
hand 1 fold flop
hand 2 raise pre
hand 3 fold river imo, looks close
hand 4 flat river
hand 5 bet/fold turn
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10-04-2010 , 09:51 AM
Hand 2 was played way to passive imo.

Everything else was answered by spamz
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10-06-2010 , 09:48 AM
hand 1 fold flop? sucks imo

pretty exploitable, isnt it?

also if you fold hand 1 you probably should fold hand 4 too, not that big difference...
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10-06-2010 , 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerDuddel
hand 1 fold flop? sucks imo

pretty exploitable, isnt it?

also if you fold hand 1 you probably should fold hand 4 too, not that big difference...
this is my main concern indeed vs someone who donks 15%, thx for pointing that out
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10-06-2010 , 09:53 AM
the 15% is probably based on like 20 hands or sth i guess, lol.
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10-06-2010 , 09:55 AM
also with your logic you probably should fold JJ too then, less donk % and bigger sizing...
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10-06-2010 , 10:00 AM
although i admit to not have noticed the 13% donk when i first replied - in which case floating flop or just folding it immediatly is closer than i thought but it would still def peel -, not seeing the difference between those 2 hands is pretty stupid
also, nice try on dodge for the use of the word exploitable in a $22-$33 thread vs a random
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10-06-2010 , 10:04 AM
imo ur giving the 15% donk percentage way too much credit!
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10-06-2010 , 10:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerDuddel
also with your logic you probably should fold JJ too then, less donk % and bigger sizing...

And the winner is...
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10-06-2010 , 10:13 AM
i find it funny how all donks 100% agree to everything spamzor says...seriously guys....this is real fun!

if spamzor said "hand 1 is an ez ship on the flop" you would all reply with "yea you are right spamz, alot of draws out there, you have to ship there obv, let me marry you"

get your own opinion!
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10-06-2010 , 10:30 AM
it beats agreeing with a ****** who tries to explain himself by using fancy words that have 0% relevance to the thread who is also unaware of equity on different boardtextures
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10-06-2010 , 10:41 AM
lol ur talking crazy **** son,

i said it is exploitable, it definitly is...., didnt say that they exploit that in a particular 22$ game...just pointed it out!
your overrating the 15% totally, they dont have to have the nuts here because the donk% is 15% after very few hands i guess, dont give it so much credit

at least now i know that i can exploit it against you when i play you
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10-06-2010 , 10:46 AM
oh yes, very cool
i'll start making points about how i have balanced check/callranges on certain boardtextures vs specific regs next time i see a thread that involves flop play OOP
none of it makes any sense for the hand, and it will be far from optimal against a random/fish, but hey... ima just type 2 phrases or something with no explanation and we will all be fine right?
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10-06-2010 , 07:01 PM
why all the bashing on spamz, surely one thread for them comments would of been enough.
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