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33$ - KK on AXX shallow in 3bet pot? 33$ - KK on AXX shallow in 3bet pot?

02-16-2011 , 10:06 PM
Villain has flatted 3/4 3bets. He seems very LAG. Last 3 times I 3bet he folded all on dry boards.

I bet flop small to induce him to jam a wider range, as I think if I bet bigger I will only get called by hands that beat me.

Thoughts?

Also, I 3bet pre instead of jamming because I think he was very likely to be calling with a very wide range.

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Hero (BB): t1105 36.83 BBs
BTN/SB: t1895 63.17 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with K K
BTN/SB raises to t90, Hero raises to t270, BTN/SB calls t180

Flop: (t540) A 5 J (2 players)
Hero bets t240, BTN/SB raises to t1625 all in, Hero calls t595 all in

Turn: (t2210) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t2210) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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02-16-2011 , 11:18 PM
nh. i'd consider making and even smaller cbet, maybe like 190. that sets stacks up better to jam the turn.
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02-17-2011 , 01:25 AM
I like it given how many draws there are here for his flatting range. Like KQT pick 2 and most diamonds are jamming here. Obv he has some Ax, but a decent amount of that ships pre/flats the flop. nh
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02-17-2011 , 01:38 AM
why are you betting this flop?
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02-17-2011 , 02:42 AM
I play bet/fold on flop.
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02-17-2011 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jarejeremap
I play bet/fold on flop.
ok....why? where do you get value from betting this flop? better question, why are you turning your KK into a bluff? think before you act imo.
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02-17-2011 , 03:03 AM
**** now i answered my own question from the post before. i was gunna use this as a learning experience for OP. OP disregard my last post and tell me why you are betting this flop.
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02-17-2011 , 04:58 AM
So RBJ, if we 3bet w/ KK and flop comes Axx (let's assume we're fairly deep) are you c/c flop most of the time? If so, are we c/c a blank turn too?
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02-17-2011 , 05:14 AM
Villain has flatted 3/4 3bets. He seems very LAG.
@ mela: wide range, yes. but that is solely vs this type of villain
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02-17-2011 , 05:15 AM
i mean, your turning your hand face up. your polarizing your range, so now his range is polarized DUCY?
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02-17-2011 , 07:02 AM
You mean in the OP's hand? You meant to say we're polarising our range because of.. the smallish bet on the flop? Or because we would selectively 3-bet there? I feel a bit lost here
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02-17-2011 , 07:31 AM
RbJ, would you check the flop here against a fish, but Cbet it against a reg?
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02-17-2011 , 02:37 PM
I bet/fold 180 unless I have some convincing reads to either c/c or b/c(like he flats an A vs our cbet, has some sort of timing tell, will spazz massively when checked to, etc...)
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02-17-2011 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Polycarpus
RbJ, would you check the flop here against a fish, but Cbet it against a reg?
I Cbet nearly 100% vs regs when I 3bet PF. Vs most regs I would bet/call here because of the draws.
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02-17-2011 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mela
You mean in the OP's hand? You meant to say we're polarising our range because of.. the smallish bet on the flop? Or because we would selectively 3-bet there? I feel a bit lost here
sorry for the confusion, I will try and clarify. In my strategy of checking the flop we are pretty much turning our hand face up. imo we are polarizing our range btw a set or air. therefore villain will be more likely to donk bet two streets without an ace. It seriously adds much more value to our hand to just call off two streets rather than bet this flop and risk him folding when we have the best hand, or calling when he has the best hand. I hope this helps.
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02-17-2011 , 06:48 PM
Nice replies, RBJ. Thx
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02-17-2011 , 07:30 PM
@ RBJ: Yes, that is pretty much what I was thinking, thanks for the clarification. At first glance I thought "betting that flop w/ KK" = "polarising our range" which didn't make much sense.. haha.
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02-18-2011 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by raised by jews
sorry for the confusion, I will try and clarify. In my strategy of checking the flop we are pretty much turning our hand face up. imo we are polarizing our range btw a set or air. therefore villain will be more likely to donk bet two streets without an ace. It seriously adds much more value to our hand to just call off two streets rather than bet this flop and risk him folding when we have the best hand, or calling when he has the best hand. I hope this helps.
this all sounds very promising
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02-18-2011 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hundrye
this all sounds very promising
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