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11-03-2011 , 01:53 AM
Start of the match, villain cbet Q77 half pot before and folded to my raise. Overall seems at leas a bit solid. Here my first idea was to get it in by shoving because a lot of outs I have here, but then I realize that this is really transparent and I will let him play his hand very easy against me, so I went for big raise with intention to get it in on almost every turn (except ones like this one). Now I think I should just flat and keep his whole range in and let him fire again, because he is probably not bluffing with his donk bet on this board. Your thoughts?

After he leads again turn this weird is it clear fold right?



    Poker Stars, $29.37 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10962292

    BB: 420 (21 bb)
    Hero (SB): 580 (29 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K 3
    Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

    Flop: (80) 9 8 J (2 players)
    BB bets 40, Hero raises to 150, BB calls 110

    Turn: (380) 8 (2 players)
    BB bets 110, Hero folds




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    11-03-2011 , 02:29 AM
    i just flat flop donk
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    11-03-2011 , 02:34 AM
    Don't raise the flop and fold the turn.
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    11-03-2011 , 03:59 AM
    call flop,wtf@turn fold?
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    11-03-2011 , 05:31 AM
    don't hate the flop raise tbh. but your sizing is god awful--in general either make it a good bit smaller or else just jam. I think jamming here is actually pretty good--it's pretty transparent, but it lets you realize your equity. Betting smaller might induce some weaker draws to play against you, but on the other hand you're not doing great against any draws other than flush draws and so I'd rather just jam and get him to fold some 8x hands. But I could be wrong, and it's clearly quite read dependent--and please note that "at least a bit solid" is NOT a read.

    Turn fold is just awful. Once you're in that spot peel and try to spike your flush, he's giving you perfect odds.
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    11-03-2011 , 11:02 AM
    i like the raise but smaller im calling the turn
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    11-03-2011 , 12:28 PM
    How are we getting the correct odds on the turn to hit our flush?

    We need something like 26% equity and with the flush only we have like 18%.
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    11-03-2011 , 12:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WesDone
    How are we getting the correct odds on the turn to hit our flush?

    We need something like 26% equity and with the flush only we have like 18%.
    srs business in calculating pot odds
    we are getting direct pot odds,have some implied pot odds,can bluff some river cards if he checks.
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    11-03-2011 , 01:52 PM
    in position, K high FD, solid player donks 1/2 pot on a flop that hits his range = i'm flatting*

    * even though they show up with like 8x/9x/crap here a lot but whatever i like being in position here too much to raise
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