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11-16-2011 , 03:43 PM

Hash1982

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 515

Villan is thinking TAG. I've been working on my bluffs vs these kinda players in various spots. Is this a good spot, or just plain spewy?

Poker Stars, $28.57 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11074842

SB: 1,766 (58.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,234 (41.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

SB raises to 60, Hero calls 30

Flop: (120) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets 66, Hero raises to 180, SB calls 114

Turn: (480) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets 210, SB calls 210

River: (900) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets 784 and is all-in, SB calls 784

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11-16-2011 , 03:44 PM

Il_First_Il

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,400

I'd give up river

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11-16-2011 , 04:17 PM

Desenzano

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 434

turn and river didn't change the board at all, if he has something on the flop i don't expect him to fold anything on this turn and river.

only thing you fold out is 76, pure floats and maybe 5x

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11-16-2011 , 04:26 PM

AlaskaForever

adept

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 808

If you played your draws passively, then he calls you down very often.

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11-16-2011 , 04:31 PM

matvaju

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 607

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Originally Posted by Herkauwer

turn and river didn't change the board at all, if he has something on the flop i don't expect him to fold anything on this turn and river.

only thing you fold out is 76, pure floats and maybe 5x

hero perceived craising range should have flushdraws, so the board did change.

Anyways, i would give up river too.

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11-16-2011 , 04:54 PM

Desenzano

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 434

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Originally Posted by matvaju

hero perceived craising range should have flushdraws, so the board did change.

Anyways, i would give up river too.

that's true, but you do think villain would fold 8x let alone 3x here, even though he knows you might have a flush?

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11-16-2011 , 05:31 PM

TheTurbo

journeyman

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 358

I come to the conclusion that Villain might only play 8x and a set into FH this way though both usually play back at this drawy flop. I would bet the turn bigger if I try to get a fold here. As played the river is a clear check fold for me. Given the results villain seems to play fairly strange. Is there any relevant history until this hand bc it feels like he doesnt give you credit here and afaik overplays his 2nd pair middle kicker?
edit: a nut flush is also possible

Last edited by TheTurbo; 11-16-2011 at 05:36 PM.

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11-16-2011 , 05:47 PM

Hash1982

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 515

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Originally Posted by TheTurbo

I c/r a pair + Dr OTT a few hands ago and hit on the river and bet small into him. So similar line taken there.

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11-16-2011 , 06:09 PM

TiltALot

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 137

I think most important thing is when bluffing that u don't narrow your range too much. May be he knew here u wouldn't play flush this fast. For example u might check the turn or bet river smaller with flush because u don't want to scare him off. Anyways u would win this pot 95% of all times if u check the turn (c-r). And bet the river slightly more than a pot.

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11-16-2011 , 06:12 PM

#10

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,656

I think as played pushing river is pretty bad. You are likely to get looked up and his range can easily be one you are representing too.

Id agree with non push bluff river if we decide to bet out. I think we arent greatly increasing range of hands he will fold to push and to say 450 bet.

But then again our FE on river is very questionable.

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