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03-25-2011 , 10:26 AM
no reads post flop, once he 3bet 60->340 and called shove w/ 55 , 2000 eff stacks on 10/20 blinds (first hand)

anyone calling here?

    (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8448472

    Hero (SB): 1,590 (53 bb)
    BB: 1,410 (47 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K 4
    Hero raises to 60, BB calls 30

    Flop: (120) 7 7 7 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 60, BB calls 60

    Turn: (240) T (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: (240) K (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 190, BB raises to 1,100, Hero folds




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    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 10:34 AM
    calling all day and night
    ok, i guess i need to make some kind of reason why i call here, basically you're beat by quads (which is mega unlikely), pocket tens, pocket kings or aces, soooo you're chopping here a ton, given how villain played his hand, you're loosing close to never here, unless he has 7x somehow, you're winning maybe 1 out of 100 times when he overplays something like Tx, or some pocket pair

    Last edited by rollinas; 03-25-2011 at 10:39 AM.
    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 10:36 AM
    Yes i call and chop
    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 10:37 AM
    I snap call here. Board is such that there are certainly enough worse hands in his range.
    Btw. 2000 ef stacks???
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    03-25-2011 , 10:37 AM
    pretty sick spot, have folded in this spot before but its really hard to say one way or the other looking at the hand in the vacuum, but tbh if i did call here i wouldnt be expecting better than a split.
    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 10:38 AM
    snap, also bet bigger OTR
    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 10:41 AM
    Im usually calling in spot like this, but here I folded and this fcker showed 7x. How often I have to see 7x to make this call EV-?
    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 10:46 AM
    There are way more kx combos then 7x combos so i think its still a call if hes range is [kx 7x]
    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 10:48 AM
    ^ like i said there must have been some ingame stuff that prompted this fold as not many people are gonna argue a fold looking at the hand in a vacuum.

    edit: some pre flop stats may help us weigh his range more to kings or 7's (like his 3b% and his fold to steal%), but if we have to put in 900 ish to win 600 we want to have more than 33% equity (which is about what we got if villain is a fishbowl who defends a high % to opens and is never bluffing in this spot).

    2nd edit: @rollinas, kk, TT, AA are basically never in villains range given his play with the 55.
    @crazyriver, what are these worse hands in his range other than all out bluffs? only uber ******s would check shove a ten or a worse fullhouse here.

    Last edited by chadders0; 03-25-2011 at 11:02 AM.
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    03-25-2011 , 11:13 AM
    Messing around with some math, and I think I was wrong before when I said 'snap'.

    if this is always chop or lose, he has to have Kx a little over 4 times as often as he has a 7. against some players I think this is a reasonable fold, particularly ones that you think don't get out of line.
    30s FH with 1 card Quote
    03-25-2011 , 11:15 AM
    fold rly,they pretty much always have it with this line,you're at best chopping.
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