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21$ HUSNG few hands vs aggro-tricky 21$ HUSNG few hands vs aggro-tricky

09-25-2010 , 04:48 AM
Villain is a bit aggro, he rr good pairs on flop oop to a cbet, found him slowplaying some hands, some 3 barrells also,mixing it up a bit. He has the fold button in his sight. He's the kind of player that is aggro and stabbing when u show some weakness to play the hand, but when I have iniative he's willing to fold.

Hand 1:
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t1580 79 BBs
BTN/SB: t1420 71 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 9 8
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 3 3 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t280) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t160, Hero calls t160

River: (t600) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t444, Hero calls t444

Here I thought that the flop and board missed his range so decided to c/c. River raise looks suspicious though.A fold somewhere?

Hand 2:

Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t846 42.30 BBs
BB: t2154 107.70 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with J 9
Hero raises to t40, BB calls t20

Flop: (t80) 7 5 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t40, BB raises to t140, Hero raises to t806 all in, BB calls t666

Turn: (t1692) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t1692) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Is it ok with these stakes? or just flat....

Hand 3:
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1322 66.10 BBs
BB: t1678 83.90 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 Q
Hero calls t10, BB checks

Flop: (t40) T J 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t40) 7 (2 players)
BB bets t40, Hero calls t40

River: (t120) Q (2 players)
BB bets t100, Hero raises to t240, BB calls t140

I guess my call on turn is meh but I decided to look him up. Anyway, what to do on riv as played? Call or raise(how much) ?

Hand 4:
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1612 80.60 BBs
BB: t1388 69.40 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with J J
Hero raises to t40, BB calls t20

Flop: (t80) 5 9 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t40, BB raises to t140, Hero raises to t420, BB calls t280

Turn: (t920) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t920) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t320, BB raises to t928 all in, Hero calls t608

Well, the riv call seems bad to me here, he doesn't maniacally rr rivers so should be a fold I guess. What about the rest? bet river ? the flop?
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09-25-2010 , 04:59 AM
#1: I fold on river, that board isn't the best place for him to 3barrel.

#2: Just call c/r on flop, we aint doing so good against his calling range.

#3: I actually fold turn against full pot bet here, there isnt any river cards that I'd like.

And btw:
ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
45,540 trials (Exhaustive)
board: TJ27
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
qs2d49.72% 22,511264
**50.28% 22,765264

On river we are going to get looked up a ton esp w/ that sizing.

#4: Ship turn. You realize that if river is a rag, every single better hand will ship it and we are forced to call. That river card is one of the worst, just check it down AINEC.
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09-25-2010 , 05:25 AM
1- Seems ok, we need some reads and our hand is good vs him.

2- Is ok too, if he want to draw, let him pay (given the stacks)

3- turn fold turn, only Q is helping u, as played i just call or klick back

4- JAM turn. As played, def ck back.
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09-25-2010 , 05:52 AM
1. FOLD PREFLOP. Jeez, why are you calling with 98o here? Fold river. There's probably no reason to suspect he's bluffing three streets.
2. Float his flop raise. This will get you a long way towards balancing your range for flatting this flop.
3. Fold turn.
4. Bet turn. Fold river.
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09-25-2010 , 05:55 AM
lolll, please don't fold 98o.
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09-25-2010 , 05:57 AM
I'm confused. I don't know if I'm getting leved here or what? Is folding 89o really an ok play? I'm mean, what are you defending with if not 89?
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09-25-2010 , 06:04 AM
I've reconsidered it, and I'm not convinced you're missing out on gobs of equity folding 98o to a 3x raise vs this opponent, since the OP's description of him says to me "this is not a guy you are going to make money playing against while out of position."

I don't give it much thought, because I'm going to look for bigger edges. Maybe 3bet the 98o and see if he really folds post-flop as much as you say he does when you take the initiative.
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09-25-2010 , 06:11 AM
1. maybe a good spot for blocker river bet? as played - fold.

2. I like this play. there is lots he will show up with that we are ahead of.

3. I would fold the turn. As played, calling seems quite nitty. This is a good spot for some thin value and the raise size is nice. we'll get called by lots.

4. SHOVE!
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09-25-2010 , 06:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by meatpies19
1. maybe a good spot for blocker river bet?
This is a more expensive option than our current best strategy, which is a check/fold. I only like to make a "blocking bet" when there's a decent chance of him calling with a weaker hand.

Now, on the other hand, betting to stop a bluff is a completely valid strategy, but I'm not nearly good enough to analyze whether this is a good spot to bluff to stop a bluff. I'd like to hear some advice about when this play might make sense.
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09-25-2010 , 06:15 AM
ok yeah the "lolll" is exaggerating sry about that, I mean, I am folding 87o.
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09-25-2010 , 06:21 AM
4th hand:
So the general opinion is jaming the turn? Or betting , and how much (I suppose with these big pot b/c,right?) ? We jam to get value from a 9 and draws?
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09-25-2010 , 06:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excelsis
4th hand:
So the general opinion is jaming the turn? Or betting , and how much (I suppose with these big pot b/c,right?) ? We jam to get value from a 9 and draws?
You jam because you're pot committed. Any time the size of the pot is bigger than your stack (and you have a hand that you have played so far for value), you can't really ever be wrong sticking it in (caveat: there is an exception to every rule.).
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09-25-2010 , 12:40 PM
1: pre is meh. I snap call but I'm a station. River is a fold tho
2: call flop c/r, get it in on safe turns
3: usually raise pre. As played, r/f bigger, like 280
4: snapfold river, calling is mega ******ed. Also, doing anything but checking back is ridic bad, incl. shoving. BTW yea ez jam on turn
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