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08-01-2016 , 08:52 PM
Winning Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (3 handed) - Winning Poker Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Button (t480)
Hero (SB) (t520)
BB (t500)

Hero's M: 17.33

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, 8
1 fold, Hero raises t30, BB calls t20

Flop: (t80) 8, 7, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t40, BB calls t40

Turn: (t160) K (2 players)
Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

River: (t320) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t360 (All-In), BB calls t340 (All-In)

Total pot: t1,000

Spoiler:

Hero had K, 8 (two pair, Kings and eights).
BB had 7, A (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero won t1,000


47 hands, 60/50 vpip/pfr
F2ST=20% CC= 65% F2CB=33% F2CBIP=15% F2TCB= 0

at the time I almost checked, but then I noticed his vpip/pfr was crazy close. so really how often is he going to even have draws here? his flatting range is likely hands that cant jam or fold. right? which means hes going to have a lot of low broadways and connector cards. like T9,98 and KT,QT etc.

do you agree with my assumptions?
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08-02-2016 , 12:42 AM
His VPIP is positive point for shoving there. Also the 8s on your hand make less likelly for him to have a flush. I dont mind the shove there.
But once u weight what he is calling u with is very hard for him to give u action with hands that u beat. I mean u block top pair on flop. U block the king and there is no much more left for his range to have that many kind of decent hands there. Would it not be even more profitable if u give him a chance to bluff? I mean if u are shoving anyway there would be no reason to fold for his shove once it doesnt affect his range at all.
I dont know. Maybe u get more value there with a chek-call.
I would love to hear more experienced player point of view there.
GL!
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08-02-2016 , 06:46 AM
My thoughts at the moment were, if I check he will check back almost all of his showdown value.

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08-02-2016 , 06:51 AM
Also forgot to mention my image. Loose aggressive, willing to barrel draws and go for thin value in spots. I'm sure villain has seen something along those lines.

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08-02-2016 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by thegibson
Also forgot to mention my image. Loose aggressive, willing to barrel draws and go for thin value in spots. I'm sure villain has seen something along those lines.

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I would not think about your image playing 2$ spins, your image is not important as almost every player in that pool isnt aware of that. Also, if that was important being willing to barrel draws and go for thin value is an argument to check that hand then as everything completed there, transform an 9 doens't look like a good move imo and you going for thin value widder makes it worse for him to bluff catch there.
As you can see by his call he is not aware of nothing and is just a bad calling station.
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08-02-2016 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Zagazaur
I would not think about your image playing 2$ spins, your image is not important as almost every player in that pool isnt aware of that. Also, if that was important being willing to barrel draws and go for thin value is an argument to check that hand then as everything completed there, transform an 9 doens't look like a good move imo and you going for thin value widder makes it worse for him to bluff catch there.
As you can see by his call he is not aware of nothing and is just a bad calling station.
Wp..

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