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09-09-2013 , 10:37 AM
Something I can do here? Maybe betting bigger on the flop I guess. I had 33 hands of this guy, I'll paste his HUD.

Sorry for not using the hand converter, I pasted from my PT and from weaktight and it said it has worng format :/

GAME #33968596: Texas Hold'em NL Tournament 2013-09-09 13:55:10
Table €2 NLH Turbo 2 Max, 701099, 7003545 (Tournament: €2 NLH Turbo 2 Max Buy-In: €1.90+€0.10)
Seat 3: corvintet0 (€1,860.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 8: rh0emer (€1,140.00 in chips)
corvintet0: Post SB €10.00
rh0emer: Post BB €20.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to corvintet0 [J J]
corvintet0: Raise (NF) €40.00
rh0emer: Call €20.00
*** FLOP *** [2 8 3]
rh0emer: Check
corvintet0: Bet €40.00
rh0emer: Call €40.00
*** TURN *** [5]
rh0emer: Check
corvintet0: Bet €120.00
rh0emer: Raise (NF) €364.00
corvintet0: Raise (NF) Allin €1,780.00
rh0emer: Allin €696.00
*** RIVER *** [6]
*** SUMMARY ***
Spoiler:
Total pot €3,000.00 Rake €0.00
corvintet0: Shows [J J]
rh0emer: Shows [4 6]
corvintet0: wins €720.00
rh0emer: wins €2,280.00


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09-09-2013 , 11:07 AM
You should of bet bigger on the flop yes..If i am correct from what I can read then you bet 40 in to a 90 pot on the flop? I would of bet at least 50, but he probably would of still called at the micros.

Once the 5 comes on the turn then it's quite hard for you to get away from it, so in my opinion then it's just one of those hands were you can't do much about, unless you have reads.
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09-09-2013 , 11:14 AM
I bet 40 in a 80 pot, just half pot. I know i could bet a little bigger, but without being result oriented, I do really want that gutshot to pay me, and against unknow players dont like to bet bigger when I have a strong hand so they can adapt. That's why a make a halfpot neutral cbet.

Anyway I dont it would make a difference, and my doubts are on the turn... I push for value, thinking that worst hands are gonna call me, like 8x or pockets, or even random hands, we cannot forget we're playing micros.
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09-11-2013 , 03:54 AM
I think you played preflop perfectly as well as the flop as standard. The turn is where it gets interesting. When you bet on the turn I think it is correct the difficult choice is what to do when he re-raises you. Up to this point you have played him enough hands where you will need to make a decision on what type of hands he is doing this with. I'm sorry I don't know how to read your HUD accurately so I will answer this the best I can.

Against a crazy/unknown I would probably call the re-raise and see a river card. If he is bluffing you, then you are only going to fold it out by re-raising him. Also by calling he will likely continue on the river. I know it is spooky to call, because an over card or other scary card might pop up on the river. However most unknowns will sometimes barrel the river. If he gives up on the river well then you have gained information about the type of player that he is. Also you should probably call even if a scary overcard falls. The only river card I might fold is the 4 of hearts, because there are too many draws that get there. Even then I still might call. Re-raising all-in on the turn is not really bad I just think calling is better, because the value you get from bluff catching is so powerful it is just worth it to give off a free card.

If he is the type of player to only do this with the nuts then folding is the best option. Some people might scream at you for being unbalanced, but in reality you got to play the player. If you have a read that he is only doing this with the nuts then you got to let it go. You will know when you are playing this person. They fold so much all the time and they never bluff. These opponent's are the most frustrating to play against, because the game usually seems to last forever!

Against an opponent that you feel uncomfortable about whether he will barrel again on the river as a bluff or value, I would recommend playing it the same way you did which is to shove all-in.

You really didn't make any mistakes JJ is a really strong hand in this spot. You are possibly getting value from hands as low as A8, K8, 84, etc...
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