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15ht vs 4x iso 15ht vs 4x iso

10-25-2016 , 09:00 PM
PokerStars - 15/30 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 15.67 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (SB): 17.67 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 6

Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 6 Q 8
BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (16 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 7.67 BB and is all-in

is it ok pre?..assume we have to fold here right?
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10-26-2016 , 09:34 AM
Easy call on turn. You have more than enough equity even vs AA.
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10-26-2016 , 11:17 AM
it is based on fact that they bluff here time to time?..because against value range (1pair+)it is not call

edit: or based on fact that cause of 4x iso it is more likely that he has pp and Qx here

Last edited by ficilan; 10-26-2016 at 11:20 AM. Reason: added q
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10-26-2016 , 12:21 PM
As I wrote, even if villain turned their hand over and showed AA it's a call... compute your equity needed and check equity that you pair + OESD has vs 1p+ :P
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10-26-2016 , 01:00 PM
yep I got it that we have equity to call against AA, but AA has same or worse equity than any pair here vs our hand..fe. against 85 we have just 20,5%
we need 24,5 to be

against all pair combos except 6x +pp we have around that 24,5%: 66+,AQs,A9s-A8s,KQs,K9s-K8s,Q2s+,J9s-J8s,T8s+,92s+,82s+,AQo,A9o-A8o,KQo,K9o-K8o,Q2o+,J9o-J8o,T8o+,92o+,82o+

but against all pair combos except 6x +pp + made straights we have 22,7%
66+, AQs, A9s-A8s, KQs, K9s-K8s, Q2s+, J8s+, T7s+, 92s+, 82s+, 75s+, AQo, A9o-A8o, KQo, K9o-K8o, Q2o+, J8o+, T7o+, 92o+, 82o+, 75o+
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10-26-2016 , 01:13 PM
many of those hands are extremely unlikely to be in villain's ISO 4x range and/or are unlikely to take this line. and yeah ofc you'll see some weird bluffs here like AK, AJ, AT, KJ, KT or even 72
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10-26-2016 , 01:41 PM
tbh have no idea what should be in villains iso 4x range :P..any ideas?..or it is just random stuff
but yeah if we add bluffs its a call was not expecting that we have that much equity against pair here
we need 24,5, have 29,5 against pair..until when would you call it? if it was like pot 12bb, 7,67bb to call (28%) would you still call?
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