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08-13-2011 , 12:07 PM

Riddle90

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 24

Well, villain was pretty laggish and i guess a little tilty. This was our 2nd game and he had started to donk a few flops after I had done so (pretty often) on the first game as I i saw he didn't know how to react to them.

Also he was calling me down pretty wide and with weak hands.

Poker Stars, $14.39 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10268392

BB: 1,395 (46.5 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,605 (53.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

Hero raises to 75, BB calls 45

Flop: (150) 6

(2 players)
BB bets 60, Hero raises to 195, BB calls 135

Turn: (540) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (540) 4

(2 players)
BB bets 90, Hero calls 90

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As I see the hand now checking the turn was a huge misstep, even though according to the gameflow I thought he may bet the turn too.

River call was std imo.

Also, what would you do if he called a bet att?

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08-13-2011 , 12:17 PM

Sol Reader

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Raise. Yes definitely bet the turn. River actually should be a small raise imo, but whatever.

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08-13-2011 , 12:23 PM

damanrico

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Yep, bet the turn. The river I would call as well, you'll be good enough of the time to call such a small bet. I don't agree with Sol Reader, I think raising is asking to only be called by better hands. And he could even do a mofo 3bet with a worse hand cause he levels himself into thinking that you're trying bluff him on the river, etc.
Next time just bet the turn, then you won't get in such a crappy spot where you can't get more value, while if you bet the turn you'll probably get a lot more value, and you stay in the lead, so that makes it easier on nasty rivers imo.

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08-13-2011 , 12:28 PM

Sol Reader

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How many 3x does he have, and how often would he bet 8x on that sizing?

Call's okay if he's spazzy, but against a lot of players I would raise.

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08-13-2011 , 12:32 PM

damanrico

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Originally Posted by Sol Reader

How many 3x does he have, and how often would he bet 8x on that sizing?

Call's okay if he's spazzy, but against a lot of players I would raise.

Against such players it's hard to tell, but I agree the sizing is a little weird for a straight. However also a flush came in, but the sizing argument goes for that as well.
The problem for me is: will he ever call with worse? I really doubt it. If there's no value to be made from worse hands, then why are we raising with the possibility of walking into a better hand? I doubt he would call us with a weaker 2 pair, he'll also be scared of a better 2 pair, straight or flush. I think because he is scared of those type of hands, he trows out this blocker bet.

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08-13-2011 , 12:37 PM

Riddle90

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Originally Posted by Sol Reader

How many 3x does he have, and how often would he bet 8x on that sizing?

I guess this note should help: "bets small with decent made hands"

But I can't remember if I wrote that before or after that hand (though i lean towards the 2nd).

In fact that was for sure the 2nd time he had bet small sth strong (1st time was a TP) but I kinda ignored it then. =/

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08-13-2011 , 02:43 PM

cippo93

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i like raise the river an amount like 180-220

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08-13-2011 , 03:26 PM

Riddle90

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Originally Posted by cippo93

i like raise the river an amount like 180-220

Why? I don't think we valuetown anything - I have to agree with damanrico on this one.

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Originally Posted by Riddle90

Also, what would you do if he called the bet WE SUPPOSEDLY MADE att?

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