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15$turbo - 2 pairs on scary river 15$turbo - 2 pairs on scary river

11-23-2013 , 05:21 AM
Villain stats - 86% calling oop / opens 76% of his buttons - > looking a little bit station. This is my first check / raise post flop. How u play that on river? Thanks!

PokerStars - $14.39+$0.61|15/30 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 1,285
SB: 1,715

SB posts SB 15, Hero posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has 9 T

SB raises to 60, Hero calls 30

Flop: (120, 2 players) J 3 T
Hero checks, SB bets 60, Hero calls 60

Turn: (240, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, SB bets 60, Hero raises to 270, SB calls 210

River: (780, 2 players) 5
Hero ????
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11-23-2013 , 10:07 AM
Easy value bet if he's a station
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11-23-2013 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTurbo
Easy value bet if he's a station
thanks for answer,yes vb is easy way to play that hand but id like to ask about optimal sizing??
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11-25-2013 , 02:27 PM
I would bet the river on the smaller size.
Not too small, we don't want to induce, question is if that board is a board to induce.
Anyhow 280-320, me I would bet 295 or 305 and if I get raised or shoved on I think it's a fold given the 3 straight cards and the backdoor flush.
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11-25-2013 , 08:47 PM
I would have raised smaller on the turn, river is a value bet for sure, size should be something around half pot
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11-25-2013 , 08:51 PM
Would bet just under half the pot.
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11-26-2013 , 02:01 PM
Im thinking about shove in this situation. IMO there is many J in his range (many player on this stakes dont fold TP) and if he calls our half pot bet he is probably calling AI. Somebody agree?
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11-26-2013 , 11:11 PM
With 895 effective in a 780 pot, a shove would be better as a bluff than for value. IMO though, it would be horrible in both cases after his small turn bet.

Villain is either weak (TPWK, Tx, busted draw by the river) or got there (KQ, Q8, rivered flush). You wouldn't be targeting the right range with a shove. I don't expect many hero calls there (not after that baby turn bet).

Milk the cow with an under half pot bet. Maybe 270 to 375 depending on previous hands. If I thought he was very weak, I'd got as low as 240. It's super bad vs a reg but this guy isn't one.
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11-28-2013 , 09:28 AM
vs station id bet ~420

never expect him to fold a J
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11-29-2013 , 12:25 PM
Not sure why you believe this is a scary river Backdoor flush is very unlikely and it's time to get some value. Half a pot would do a trick - no way he can fold J. Some Ts to call as well.
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11-29-2013 , 04:00 PM
i think you should lead the turn.
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11-30-2013 , 04:33 AM
Bet 450 and take the pot.
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11-30-2013 , 04:58 AM
yeah leading turn looks nice too
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11-30-2013 , 06:19 AM
At first I thought this is the easiest x/f in the world.. but oh wait, this is not PLO forum, never mind.

In NL this river is pretty much a blank. In a sense that's unfortunate for us, as we can't really expect him to bluff with missed draws when we check to him. If he has us beat it doesn't matter either way; if we bet he calls/jams, if we check and he jams we have to call.

That said, our river decision pretty much boils down to what is the most +EV option vs Jx and QT/KT type hands. Tx will almost always check back this river, and Jx might check back a decent amount of time too. Tx probably folds to our jam, and Jx probably won't. Given that there are more Jx combos than Tx (we block Tx, and he probably won't bet/call turn without some draw), I think anywhere between 420 to jam is fine and probably won't matter much in long run.

Btw b/f is not an option with this stack size.
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