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Originally Posted by crazyriver
That's not really an argument.
I was not trying to have an "argument". I admitedly am new at the HUSNG format and I am more looking forward at being wrong and showed why I am wrong than to win an argument.
I elected to develop on why I percive shoving here to be a very bad idea. Again, I may be way off on my technical approach, but here are some of the thoughts that I wrote down:
The problem:
HUSNG TURBO
Blinds 20/40
Effective stack: 1026 chips
Villain opens 80 (20+60) chips
Villain has 954 chips behind
Hero?
Scenario 1 hero shoves:
If villain's 3bet shove calling range =10%
EV= (90% 120 chips=108 chips - (10% X 64% 954 chips = 62 chips)
Our shove is +EV 66 chips
If villain's 3bet shove calling range =20%
EV= (80% 120 chips=96 chips - (20% X (villains range equity =63%) X 954 chips = 120 chips)
Shove is -EV 34 chips
Scenario 2 hero calls:
160 chips in the pot. We have 57% equity vs any two (+EV 91 chips)
On this flop, our hand has approx 63% equity vs villain's any two
Villain cbets probably 80% of the time
Once villain cbets, we have 260 chips otf and our hand is a 63% favorite vs villains range (+EV 163 chips )
At this point, all options are still opened: check-raise smallish, check-raise shove, call down villains barrels leaving his blufs in and all this we can do while still having draws to a wheel, 1 overcard, backdoor nut flush.