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09-23-2013 , 05:50 PM
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He was raising 86% pre and this is my first NAI 3bet.


    Poker Stars, $14.69 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19550101

    SB: 555 (27.8 bb)
    Hero (BB): 445 (22.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 4
    SB raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, SB calls 60

    Flop: (200) K 7 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets 70, SB calls 70

    Turn: (340) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 80, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 340 pot
    Final Board: K 7 8 T
    SB mucked and won 340 (170 net)
    Hero mucked 7 4 and lost (-170 net)



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    09-24-2013 , 03:12 AM
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    i jam this one pre, postflop on turn i have no idea if we could turn our hand into a bluff, maybe others can give you better advice, i probably also fold
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    09-24-2013 , 06:04 AM
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    noob question, how wide do we jam pre vs 86% at this stack depth in general? and should we expect adjustments, if so what is our counter-strategy?
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    09-24-2013 , 08:31 AM
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    How bad it could be instead of checking, jamming turn?
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    09-24-2013 , 08:35 AM
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    terrible hand to 3b non allin
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    09-24-2013 , 09:57 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yay
    terrible hand to 3b non allin
    What would be better?
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    09-24-2013 , 10:38 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TG25
    What would be better?
    Jam. Your hands does quite well vs his calling range, since it is rarely dominated and you have a ton of fold equity.
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    09-24-2013 , 10:47 AM
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    what about calling and c/r a ton of flops ? Dont we get more value here doing so ?
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    09-24-2013 , 11:13 AM
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    the guy mr 86% just shove it
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    09-24-2013 , 11:23 AM
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    Jam pre.

    If you are close in indifferent between calling / folding with these odds; fold - your opponent bet-size will likely increase at river.

    ... unless, he keeps same ranges & same bet-size-% (unlikely)
    ... unless, he has now too much air that either has to give up at river (plausible if he stabs once and gives up) OR that creates clear calls even with higher bet-size-% at river (maybe if he likes to attack weaknesses with 2 barrels)
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    09-24-2013 , 12:33 PM
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    What hands do you guys put in 3bet AI and 3bet NAI ranges? I thought it was better to put bluffs mostly in non AI 3bet range...
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