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09-13-2013 , 06:13 AM
Hi,

Barreling 3 sts is fine here or should give up on river?


    Poker Stars, $14.69 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BB: 520 (26 bb)
    Hero (SB): 480 (24 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 8
    Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

    Flop: (80) 4 Q 7 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 40, BB calls 40

    Turn: (160) K (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 90, BB calls 90

    River: (340) K (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 310 and is all-in, BB calls 310

    15$ HT 84o barreling Quote
    09-13-2013 , 09:08 AM
    turnbet is debateable, dont mind checking there.
    as played never ever shipping, they call you off pretty light here
    and you basically turn your sdv into a bluff
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    09-13-2013 , 10:30 AM
    The K is a horrible card for us.. Especially when it pairs the board.. Also your turn bet was way too large imo
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    09-13-2013 , 12:22 PM
    Turn bet is kinda meh but i dont see the need for shoving river, u have SDV and hes never folding Qx here or Kx thats floated the flop and i even think 7x will call here a fair % of the time. If i didnt have 4x i would barrel this turn, the sizing is fine imo.
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    09-13-2013 , 07:48 PM
    turn is ok fold cf river
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    09-14-2013 , 11:41 AM
    I think that the turn is a good card to barrel but this is a bad hand to barrel it with. Like, we're going to have SO many other hands in our range here that this card gives us extra equity but still no SDV (gutshots, oesds, fds, as well as pairs ofc. but we're not bluffing those :P) - so we're going to be barrelling so much air here (and it's gonna be pretty transparent that we are) that we DON'T need extra hands in our barrelling range. So we should totally opt for taking-our-SDV line here.

    (sorry my wording is really poor here and I don't have time to try to rewrite - basically we're bluffing so much on this turn that we should not be adding SDV to our bluffrange here)
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    09-14-2013 , 12:36 PM
    Can anyone explain why turn barrel is "meh" or "debatable" ? thx
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    09-14-2013 , 02:03 PM
    because randoms usually float all Kx here, we block bottom pair combinations which realistically fold to barrels quite often. so the only hand we really want to barrel him of is 7x, which is basically a huge gamble vs population.
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