Villain is pretty loose and spewy. He does things like c/minraise flop w/ unders+FD. He opens ~55% of buttons and has never folded to a 3bet (0 out of 6) is kind of floaty and moderately aggressive in general. He has raised my flop cbet in 3bet pots a couple times before (2 of 4).

Given villain tendencies, I think preflop and flop are clear valuebets. Not sure about the turn.. no option seems all that great or all that bad. Stacks are kinda awkward.

Thinking about it now, I'm leaning towards b/f 300ish on turn and c/f river?? Otoh, history suggests that he might be expected to raise flop w/ Kx and flushdraws in which case I should bet/bet (non hearts) or crai or something.

But those stats are over a small sample and over a few games so they include big-blind play, and I don't have very helpful notes for some reason, so don't take the stats too seriously...

Full Tilt Poker $110 + $5 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t1260 42 BBs
BTN/SB: t1740 58 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with Q Q
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, BTN/SB calls t120

Flop: (t360) 2 K 6 (2 players)
Hero bets t180, BTN/SB calls t180

Turn: (t720) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t300 (Hero has 900 behind)

i just ch/fold turn, because we really dont know where we are
turn card sucks, he ch-mini raises OOP, but not in possision
he calls your cbet so he can easli have Kx here, FD, 6x.
Im not sure he will be bet 6x. so i think its possible Kx, flush, sometimes air.
If we bet 300 and he call, we have to ch/fold any riv i think. If we bet and he raise we have to fold. Thats why i just ch/fold here, expecially we dont have Qh

the villain described is probably shoving the flop with a fd so there prolly arent tons of made flushes in range. a tricky Kx can still be in range (though i wonder how often this is the case given his rr dynamic in 3B pots... is he more likely to think you may play back at a rr on the flop... and so rr the K on the flop rather than hope for barrels?), though imo std villains would raise a lil larger on the turn unless they have a fd to go along with it.

given you think villain is floaty/spewy he has got to have tons draws and air in range right... i mean if he has floated and missed he is always betting the turn right??? like 87dd/T9dd/QT/AT/AhXx + possibly some other random fds or pair+fds as well as Kx and some rare flushes. If this is his range I like c/r turn to let his random floats bluff and to ensure he has to get his money in with his random flushdraws that have solid equity. if he checks back the turn i c/c any non heart/Ace river.

don't like a bet fold especially on a three flush as many fish will just jam any pair/draw comboooo

turn line is very dependent on his overall aggression, and how much he understands taking showdown value imo. Do you think he bets something like a6 no heart to protect? Would he check behind a floated ahxd?

I'd personally just overjam the turn, although bet/call then c/c blank rivers is pretty sexy.

i'd just c/f tbh
if he has 6x and bets it, good for him

ohh, im so nit?

dont now much contraction, can you explain "tbh"? i think i should know that but im not :P sry

to be honest

wow you really think v described villain this is only 22 66 Kx and flushes*??? no Ah/Qh/something else?

Ah will more often than not check back and take the freecard because he will figure to have showdown value
Qh wtf you putting him on? floated QJ/QT/Q9/Q8o or something? sick part of one's range here obv... sigh
notice how he only opens 55% of hands on buttons... quite sure very few 2x hands in that range and also discounts a reasonable amount of 6x imo
even if he did float with like Ah/QhTx, whatever, his equity is still 25% or more and we have 0, 1 or 2 outs when behind it seems, just c/f

edit: notice how OP stated "is kinda floaty" though no examples given which means probably no showdowns yet and he can just have a piece of the board everytime

I bet bigger tbh on the flop something like 210 or is that really bad (given that he floats a lot it is bad I guess, but still I bet a little bit bigger on the flop:$)?
On turn I c/f, what do we do w/QhQx? C/call or ..........?

yea, i've played him a few times over the past couple days, and the reason i don't have better notes is probably because we haven't seen many showdowns.

however, that also means he's very often taking the pot away on later streets if i show weakness which makes c/f turn in this hand less attractive, imo.

also, nobody checks flop right?

was thinking the same thing fwiw, wouldn't mind a check at all
also, what did he do preflop? raise 55% and limp a lot or just fold the other 45%?

just fold the other 45%

fair nuff.
my thoughts are villain is rarely just flatting a flopped fd here, like yaqh said...

I also think that most kinda spewy $100 players are raising way more than 300 into 720 with 22/66/Kx no fd when the turn comes 3flush

so i just felt like this small turn bet only really reps KxQh (AK obv shove pre)



Edit: cant it be AhJx for value or 54/43dd as a bluff sometimes too??

have all your 3b cbets been 180?

i think this was the first time i 3bet him in this game, but yea, at these stacks my cbet is always going to be right around halfpot

having a villain described as floaty and c/f this turn reallllly sucks tbh but i think it may be the best of any option available.

any showdowns of which we can be sure of this? doubt it

fair enough

yeah cool, putting people on one hand, phil helmuth much?

how are you even sure of this? i mean, this is the 7th time so far we 3bet and he folded to none; if he flatted all other times and 4bet 0 times, then AK or JJ+ can def be in his range and all of those CRUSH us so hard

yes, keep adding like couple of combo's of hands plz to not try and look at the big picture of his range and what hands we beat/dont beat

3bet bigger for value, his openingrange is quite strong already and he won't fold if you make it 210 anyway imo

fwiw, i think checking flop is way better really

Obv I cannot be sure of anything, just making generalizations and guesstemations like always in life.

I just think this is a pretty unusual value line @ the $100s.

sorry for having an opinion

just stop terms that imply "always" and "never" and you'll be way better of

raising the flop with a FD is soooo 2007. all the cool LAGs just float that ****, then when they turn a flush they can rep a straight draw repping a flush draw that just got there, but they actually have a flush draw that just got there.

as for checking the flop: it's not terrible to c/c obviously, but a "moderately aggressive" opponent is the last person i'd like to check it to. i'd way prefer checking it to a passive opponent, or to a really aggro bluffy one. besides if the op did c/c flop, we would just be commenting on a hand where villain fired 2 barrels and op would be asking "can i rly fold when I've underrepped my queens so much??" and nobody would have any real clue what to do, and then someone would ask "why no cbet?"

if we c/c flop and this turn comes up then we c/c again because there's a ton more Jx in his range or 88 type of hands trying to protect from a 4th hearts or whatever
his range will be a lot bigger than if we were to bet the flop, that is the point

and we don't really miss value from his floats cuz we can still bet turn and river if flop goes chkchk??