It was a few days ago so I don´t remember more details than I´m gonna describe. He didn´t seem donkish at all. Didn´t see any donk plays.

It was the 30/60 level, I had 4000 chips against his 2000 thousand so around 33bb effective.

He was the fold/limp call type. Several times I raised his limp and he called. The hands on showdown were the QJs, J9s, mid-small pairs type.

He always limped but a few 3x distributed along the match. With the type of hands he limp called and his very low frequency of 3xs I felt (don´t have the numbers) his range for 3x IP was AT+ and 99+, maybe TT+, and maybe KQs also.

One more important read is that he did not seem to float air at all when I raised his limp and he called the flop. He always had a pair. I didn´t really cbet air on drawy boards that seemed to hit his limp-call range, so don´t know how he would play good draws.

Within the 30/60 level I had been raising his limp a lot and it seemed that he was getting a bit irritated. Then, he 3x, I have QQ, I think for many seconds and shove. I had a strong feeling that he would call with most/all hands in his 3x range because he was agitated and given he didn´t float the flop unless with a hand I don´t him to call a 3bet with AT miss the flop and fold to cbet, I wanted to force him to play for all the chips. Plus a 3 bet would look too strong given that I never had the chance to 3bet since he opens so little.

What do you think of the play?

I played a bit with the ranges in Pokerstove.

So if you hold the Queens and the information given by you about the ranges of villain are correct you have 61% against his range (AT+ TT+).
I think the shove is okay here, but often against those limp/call players it's just easier to play them down and not to force though decisions like that.

But I guess I would have called here also.

You mean you would flat the Queens or you would call the shove if you were in his position?

never a nickname has matched so good a wall of text

No, sorry. I meant the shove from you was reasonable and +EV, if this is his real range.

Its called a flip OP. Why didnt you 3bet? Im not reading all that sry.

+1
I think i tried to read it yesterday but it's such a jumble. And yeah, just 3bet and let him 4bet jam.

It was a bit of wall of text but these sentences above summarize it..

It´s short enough now. I was really certain about his range, it couldn´t be any wider.

What do you think of the play?

Just 3bet to like 500 and snapcall a ship, qq is a bit too strong to just ship over a 3x 33bb deep

What do you think of the argument of shipping instead of 3betting exactly because the 3bet looks way stronger? A ship looks like 66.

And if A or K hits board we check fold I guess? How often does that happen?

my head is asploding every time i open this thread i think im being hardly leveled here

Its true that a normal 3bet looks stronger than a ship, but still people arent going to call k7 or a5 or j9 or t8s if you ship, but its likely they will call all these hands against a normal 3bet, so u are basically missing a lot of value by openshipping over his raise.

But in this case his range really was as tight as I mentioned. No middle hands in his opening range.

no offense here but when u are so sure about a hand ,there isnt any reason to post it if u plan to argue to any opinion given.

other than that,i think its a spew to jam there and despite the fact u might had been running him over with raises+cbets,if he is the nit u describe he will fold again.

Although wanna add something here,lets assume OP did 3bet and flop comes A83 and we act first,how does anyone go on after this point against the assuming nitty tight old villain? (raise=he calls only if he has us beat imo,check=waisting a ****load of value?)

correct me here plz,although i am a turbo fish and i dont care much but just curious

standard

Well, I guess there isnt too much discussion anymore left for this thread.

I really hate when people don´t post the results after the thread came to an end, so here it goes: He snap called with Aces. Sucks it didnt work out this time.

Thanks to everybody who responded.

hahaha yah we all been waiting for results specially in this topic, fold next time, he has Aces every time (well maybe KK 10%)