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Originally Posted by redirkulous
isn't the marketplace standard to pay out in full, and then issue investors 1099s?
you shouldn't be witholding money for taxes yourself. Also, tipping dealers (when Borgata already takes out 3% of the prizepool for dealer compensation), should be totally on your end, and investors shouldn't have to take the hit with you.
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Originally Posted by redirkulous
i wouldn't be so sure.
and no, it is not rather standard to tip dealers when you win, especially when 3% is coming out of the prizepool.
if your investors agree to the 28% withhold, then whatever---but to put them on the hook for your excess tip is ridiculous.
edit: people from Canada who sell action to live tournaments regularly struggle to sell in this marketplace, for no other reason then they auto withhold X% (30?) up front.
In this marketplace, people expect to get paid in full---and you are responsible for that unless you say otherwise in the OP that you will be withholding.
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Originally Posted by standouts
ok well first off take it easy this is my first time doing this.
As for the non standard to tip comment.... that sucks that there are that many people are too cheap to tip extra. Those people are working for a living and the tournament winner could toss a few over the 3% after a big score. If they don't want to be held accountable so be it, but don't try to act like it was some extravagant tip.
Secondly I did say that everyone with action would be held accountable for the taxes. Being new to this I was under the ASSUMPTIONS..... that a big score would mean taxes would be witheld by me being that I am on the W2 and will be the one paying them at years end. I am not trying to shaft anyone just trying to take the easiest way to get payment done while being fair also. I know most of these guys, so I will just have to get a hold of them all to make sure its all fine with them taking this route. Hopefully all goes well don't really want to sour a nice moment.
I think what Redirkulous is saying is 100% standard.
This is why more players seeking backers should take the extra time to be very specific when writing their original posts.
You said it best yourself, this is the first time you have done this and to assume things after the fact simply isnt fair to investors. Most backers here are super cool but you can
never assume things when it comes to money.
Business is business, plain and simple.
As far as the claim that your extra tip was "extravagant" is missing the point. Borgata takes out 3% for a reason. I understand you felt compelled to toss the dealer some extra cash (you were in a very good mood) but this is still a business deal between multiple investors and you simply dont have all of their votes regarding giving any extra tips to dealers, waitresses,valet or strippers that night.
Money is money and it belongs to all parties involved at that point.
Great job by the way bro!! Im cheering for any and all 2p2ers. Congrats!!