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07-30-2010 , 04:34 AM
once again,

I DID NOT MEAN OFFENSE.

I DID NOT MEAN TO BE RUDE.

I DID NOT MEAN ANYTHING BY ANYTHING I SAID, BESIDES THAT THE 66 CALL IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

i have nothin but love for you thibavol....ur my boy
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07-30-2010 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Thibavol
I wasn't gonna reply, but oh well, i dont like being called names. For the record i was nicely asking, i didn't like nor your answers nor the way u said them, that's why i'm unreserving.

Now if i take an utg+1 12.5bb shove range from i dunno, Kill everyone for example (i know it's outdated, but let's play along), it states : 44+,A8s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,ATo+,KQo which is a range i like a bit more than yours to be honest.

And now if we stove against that range :

Hand 0: 54.272% 53.72% 00.55% 1021043304 10477656.00 { 44+, A8s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, ATo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 45.728% 45.18% 00.55% 858658824 10477656.00 { 66 }

Hand 0: 56.616% 56.02% 00.60% 1064671812 11402532.00 { 44+, A8s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, ATo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 43.384% 42.78% 00.60% 813180564 11402532.00 { 55 }

Not making the range up, just picked it in a respected Book.

Now that's why i dont call 66 an "obv ridic" (your statement) call, but more like a really marginal one. And 55 becomes on obv fold.

Now the 115 i dont like defending J6o in SB for starters even with ridic odds, call me a nit, i dont care. Because u are rarely staking off to worse postflop and thus not really making a profit with a marginal hand.

Further i think u are tilted by your runbad and i think it will affect your play (personnal opinion). But more i don't like your tone to a 10% investor.
please state the idiots you're aware of that shove 44 but not 22. LMAO
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07-30-2010 , 04:37 AM
For the record, this is the best anyone that I've staked this month has done. I think anything my money touches turns to poo.
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07-30-2010 , 04:40 AM
can we just agree to disagree and leave it there ?
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07-30-2010 , 05:11 AM
6s are close but i would have folded, but i wouldn't blame anyone for callin there wiht 6s
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07-30-2010 , 10:36 AM
Wow, what a disaster.
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07-30-2010 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by YouHave2outs
he just unregged for 10%. pm me if u want some...the thread is in the staking forum....

lmao at him unregging his action. never heard of somethig so hilarious over wrongful pride
Wow all this over a call that is ?, i mean ur investing in him to play the tourney and the decision in the end lies with mike, which imo i beleive was the right call. Keep doing ur thing man and dont let nobody bring u down, with a little run good u ft to big mtt's last night alone and not even talk about the deep runs last week. Your a beast man and keep grinding!!!! Oh and one more thing, why would anybody uninvest with one call they dont beleive in, just crazy
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07-30-2010 , 11:06 AM
Don't mean to speak for Thibavol but some of the other plays posted were a little questionable (even if they worked...), and it did seem like the hands played later in the thread were a result of tilt or something like it. If you look early in the thread, it's all premium hands, standard spots... then the last page has been filled with a lot of bluffs and getting it in second best.

Also, changing the package on your own accord is not standard. You post a schedule, people invest in that schedule, you can't just add and subtract tournaments as you see fit with their money.

Before youhave2outs comes in yelling and cursing and calling me a moron, I'm posting this because I was observing the thread as a future potential buyer, and wanted to see what he was like as a player. Needless to say with all of the above combined things, I won't be investing. (In before "YOUR LOSS ****ING MORON BRO.")

In addition, if Thibavol wants his money back before a package begins, REGARDLESS of the reason, there should be no questions asked. If it's because he doesn't like the play in a previous session or hand, then that's even more of a legitimate reason to get it back.
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07-30-2010 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nutshot2

Also, changing the package on your own accord is not standard. You post a schedule, people invest in that schedule, you can't just add and subtract tournaments as you see fit with their money.
i posted very clearly in the thread that he chose to invest in that I could change the schedule as I saw fit if the tourneys I added were less than 55 buy in. I also did not change the schedule much at all, and the tournaments I did add were more ev than the ones I took off.

In addition to this, you say there is more spew and bluffs as the thread progresses. Everything before was standard spots. That's because when I'm absurd deep and everyone is nitting sweaters in the beginning I just wait for premium holdings. When antes hit and the tournament is deeper, i can take advantage by being more aggressive.

Let me know which hands are spew/not standard spots?

I got it in ak<qq and 66<kj...........
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07-30-2010 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Thibavol
can we just agree to disagree and leave it there ?
ya but you didn't show me any real math or give any of your "additional reasons" to consider.

i'm aware that it was a close spot which is why i tanked a little bit before calling when i estimated the math in my head to be just exactly about what it turned out to be.

i'm sorry this turned into an issue, i overreacted last night. i still think the 66 call is right.

thib i'm sendin ur funds soon
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07-30-2010 , 04:18 PM
went through all hhs. didnt really spew anything??? and i def wasn't tilting...i made me deepest runs at the end of the night...

only hand where you might be able to say i spewed was that JThh shove, but given table dynamics/reads I didn't think it was awful at all. I didn't put him on calling A9.

Anyways, after re-reading the thread I'm aware that I come off childish and ridiculous. Just want to apologize again for overreacting/handling the situation the way I did, even if I do stand behind the play I made.

So thib, my apologies again.

pm'd u as well, hope no hard feelings in the future. i know you won't invest, and do not care, but hope that all is cool.
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07-30-2010 , 04:59 PM
good post, youhave2outs you were being way too sensitive man

i saw your stats on poker rankings, you have nothing to worry about. play your game, improve where you can. i only wish i had the roll to get a piece of the action.

after the weekend, and next pckg i probably will. just relax man.
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07-30-2010 , 06:02 PM
Funds received and apology accepted.
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07-31-2010 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by walkinbacktopenna
good post, youhave2outs you were being way too sensitive man

i saw your stats on poker rankings, you have nothing to worry about. play your game, improve where you can. i only wish i had the roll to get a piece of the action.

after the weekend, and next pckg i probably will. just relax man.
Youhave2outs is one of the most honest/dedicated/upfront person that i have ever met/did business with and he would never disrespect or just give away any investors money. He may come across a little forward and blunt, but thats just his personality, he is deff a +ev investment in anything he puts up, and im glad that the both of u squashed this, and keep grinding and beasting mike!!!!
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08-10-2010 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by YouHave2outs
please state the idiots you're aware of that shove 44 but not 22. LMAO
Proud to be an idiot there.
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