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09-14-2010 , 04:38 PM
c_d, I certainly understand your concerns from a investment standpoint, and agree with some of your points. At the same time, though, I feel like a couple things you said were a little unfair.

1 and 2. A 30 min drive turned out to be 2 hours because of absolutely ridiculous traffic. As soon as I got internet access I insta reg'ed and posted on 2+2. I know it looks shady when I said 30 minutes, but it was a combination of not knowing the time/being anxious to get set up. I'm also not happy that I was unable to take advantage of the equity in the first hour of that tournament. That being said, I have no reason to intentionally late reg, and this was the only event that I had to do this for. Also, I feel like this "30 minutes" thing has become the basis for calling into question my character, which comes across as a little insulting tbh

I should preface 3.-6. by saying that my style of play often tries to get a decent stack for the midgame/late game with antes, where I really do well. Also, I'm not sure if some might be getting slightly the wrong impression from these all-in steals preflop, as I almost never show the pots I take down while I almost always show the ones I lose, because I try to show the big bust out hands.

3. I don't remember opener's stats or the sample size. I remember the opener was tighter than the 3bettor, but still more aggressive than your typical 6-max player. I'd estimate the sample size was something like 40-75 hands-not very big, admittedly. I agree 40/30/20 is a ton, though, which is why I decided to make this move. I also had a great image to do this, barely did **** the entire time I was there. Plus good metagame considerations if I'm looked up and hold/get there.

I don't have SNG wiz, but I can try do some numbers on my own. Estimating opening range at {55+,A7s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,A8o+,KTo+,QTo+} and calling range at {QQ+, AKs, AKo}, 3betting range at {66+,A4s+,K7s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo} and calling range {TT+, AQs+, AKo}. In terms of ranges, this means opener is raising 18.7% and calling 2.6%, and 3bettor 3betting 20.7% and calling 3.8%. Opener is folding to 4bet 86.1% of the time, 3bettor is folding 81.6%.

86.1%*81.6% = 70.2% they both fold, and I win t696.

13.9% opener calls, and I'm risking t3183 to win t3723 with 35.8% equity.

18.4% 3bettor calls, and I'm risking t3183 to win t3429 with 32.9% equity.

0.702(+t696) + 0.139(0.358)(+t3723) + 0.139(0.642)(-t3183) + 0.184(0.329)(+t3183) + 0.184(0.671)(-t3183) =

t489 + t185 -t284 + t193 - t393 =

+t190

So it's +EV based on the ranges I assigned. I guess you could say that the sample is small, and that 20% villain 3bet is not an accurate long-term range but you can't know that in-game, he might just as well been a LAGtard near the top of his range.

4. I agree that a couple of these are really a little too light like the 8764 hand, and especially the KKQ4 hand. I'm not sure the KKQ4 is terribad with the stack I thought I had, though. With pretty much only a PSB left I'd only need like 35% equity to call. I think you can include two pairs and pair+big draw combos in villain range, right? In the 9957 hand I pretty much took out trips from his range, based that he's PFR and checked flop. I'm behind just KKxx and JJxx, and the Kc adds a bunch of potential straight and flush draws. I thought his range was weighted towards the latter just based on his raise sizing. I think AAxx is in there sometimes too; I disagree that him cbet/get it in on the flop this deep 3-way is the only way or even the preferred line. The turn might be a more reasonable spot from his perspective since numerous draws are in our betting/raising range while not really so on the flop. Not sure, though, this hand might still be a little light.

I'm generally willing to gamble in PLO (nothing to do with having less % of myself), as long as I'm not in a -EV spot, but these spots were actually not that good. Maybe I'm still in HU PLO mode. I'll try to avoid these kind of spots in the future

5-6. Yeah, these don't seem good either..I don't remember my reasoning behind these two hands. I'll try to get the hhs for these tournaments, but I suspect either 1. their ranges ridiculously wide or 2. they're calling a ridiculously tight range. I'll get back to this.

7. That was my only significant misclick this WCOOP. Happened as I was stacking a bunch of tables and double clicked. Luckily I ran good when it happened

8. Yeah, that was a random $109 on the regular schedule that I had of myself. Sometimes I add a couple tables of my own like $20-$109 so I'm not 1-2 tabling. It wasn't a WCOOP, just felt like posting some **** in the thread.

9. Yeah, that was my thought process exactly. Totally with you in that I'm not looking to get it in pre every time with A2xx 50bb deep.


All said, aside from the 30 minutes thing (you prob don't mean too much by it but that kinda pissed me off) I appreciate the comments. I'm not happy myself when I don't play well, and try to treat investor money as good as my own. I'll try to keep the mistakes in the future to an absolute minimum. Hopefully I can turn these deep hold'em runs into actual final tables
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-14-2010 , 04:45 PM
thanks chase. yeah im up on the leaderboard but a long way from 1st. a ship should do it though, and im feeling decent about my chances
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-14-2010 , 04:47 PM
got 14k in the mixed hold'em atm
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09-14-2010 , 05:41 PM
Thx loads for feedback and not taking it as a personal attack really appreciate that, and your reasoning looks decent for them, your maths is far better than mine and good to see that 99 hand is a +Cev push, and i think your ranges are pretty close.

And well done on winning so far, I mean considering the fact i posted a list of stuff and ur still winning shows that you must be playing well & running wellish so hopefully that keeps up and ends in a decent ft and decent rungood on ft.
GL GL
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-14-2010 , 05:51 PM
thanks man

doing well now in the mixed he 27.5k. sitting a little above starting in badugi
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-14-2010 , 06:12 PM
Go Go Package 3!!!

and gl in the 2 day 1k event!
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09-14-2010 , 06:17 PM
Very well written reply. I become more and more impressed by your great play combined with the fact that you play hours upon end.

Keep up the good work! It's very very fun to follow your progress.
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09-14-2010 , 06:21 PM
thanks guys
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09-14-2010 , 07:13 PM
gg mhe


Poker Stars $300+$20 Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Limit - 6 players
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BTN: t22881 45.76 BBs
SB: t27703 55.41 BBs
BB: t10119 20.24 BBs
UTG: t26493 52.99 BBs
MP: t20082 40.16 BBs
Hero (CO): t20074 40.15 BBs

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with 8 8
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls

Flop: (7 SB) 7 5 2 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

Turn: (4.5 BB) 2 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

River: (6.5 BB) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: 6.5 BB
SB shows T A (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Hero mucks 8 8
SB wins 6.5 BB



Poker Stars $300+$20 Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Limit - 6 players
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UTG: t24280 40.47 BBs
MP: t44944 74.91 BBs
CO: t24967 41.61 BBs
BTN: t22903 38.17 BBs
SB: t22696 37.83 BBs
Hero (BB): t12529 20.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with K A
1 fold, MP raises, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps!, 1 fold, CO calls

Flop: (10.5 SB) 2 7 T (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

Turn: (6.25 BB) A (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

River: (8.25 BB) Q (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls

Final Pot: 12.25 BB
CO shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
Hero mucks K A
CO wins 12.25 BB



Poker Stars $300+$20 Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Limit - 6 players
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SB: t22180 36.97 BBs
BB: t42244 70.41 BBs
UTG: t37267 62.11 BBs
MP: t20503 34.17 BBs
CO: t26296 43.83 BBs
Hero (BTN): t3829 6.38 BBs

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with Q A
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls

Flop: (7.5 SB) 5 K T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls

Turn: (4.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls

River: (6.75 BB) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: 6.75 BB
UTG shows A 5 (a pair of Fives)
Hero mucks Q A
UTG wins 6.75 BB
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-14-2010 , 09:43 PM
Villain 31/17 over 58 hands. I probably had an awful image from getting **** on all tournament (did not hit a single flop and could not win a single significant single pot..every cbet looked up, 0/5 in hitting sets in 3bet pots, etc. etc.).


Poker Stars $1000+$50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds + t5 - 9 players
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UTG+1: t8215 M = 60.85
UTG+2: t2590 M = 19.19
MP1: t2590 M = 19.19
MP2: t11045 M = 81.81
Hero (CO): t4140 M = 30.67
BTN: t12620 M = 93.48
SB: t9615 M = 71.22
BB: t7580 M = 56.15
UTG: t15510 M = 114.89

Pre Flop: (t135) Hero is CO with A K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t175, 3 folds, Hero raises to t480, 3 folds, UTG+1 raises to t8210 all in, Hero calls t3655 all in

Flop: (t8405) 7 4 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t8405) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t8405) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t8405
UTG+1 shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero shows A K (high card Ace)
UTG+1 wins t8405
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 05:04 AM
learn to win flips in nlh .
Presume no good with badugi either?
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 01:22 PM
oops, i thought wcoops started at 14:00 today, but missed the 12:00 one. it was a $265 NL omaha8, this will be refunded plus markup to package 2 people
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 02:57 PM
I have a LAG image 38/30/17.2 and have 3bet this guy multiple times. Wouldn't be surprised if he has some air in his range 4bet range. Obv never getting there in flips


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds + t10 - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): t17040 M = 94.67
SB: t13361 M = 74.23
BB: t4455 M = 24.75
UTG: t5670 M = 31.50
MP: t19172 M = 106.51
CO: t7802 M = 43.34

Pre Flop: (t180) Hero is BTN with Q A
2 folds, CO raises to t200, Hero raises to t550, 2 folds, CO raises to t1245, Hero raises to t17030 all in, CO calls t6547 all in

Flop: (t15764) 9 T 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t15764) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t15764) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t15764
Hero shows Q A (high card Ace)
CO shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
CO wins t15764
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09-15-2010 , 03:22 PM
Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds + t10 - 5 players
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Hero (SB): t5948 M = 29.74
BB: t12236 M = 61.18
UTG: t12640 M = 63.20
CO: t20877 M = 104.39
BTN: t15799 M = 79.00

Pre Flop: (t200) Hero is SB with 4 4
2 folds, BTN raises to t200, Hero calls t150, 1 fold

Flop: (t550) 8 4 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t200, Hero raises to t550, BTN calls t350

Turn: (t1650) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t950, BTN calls t950

River: (t3550) Q (2 players)
Hero bets t2250, BTN calls t2250

Final Pot: t8050
Hero shows 4 4 (a full house, Fours full of Eights)
BTN mucks 7 5
Hero wins t8050
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 04:08 PM
Suckouttt. Villain's pretty insane preflop..been 3betting about half my opens since it got down to 5 handed and have been doing **** like cold 4bet/folding


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t80/t160 Blinds + t20 - 4 players
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Hero (CO): t9748 M = 30.46
BTN: t26378 M = 82.43
SB: t16220 M = 50.69
BB: t15154 M = 47.36

Pre Flop: (t320) Hero is CO with Q A
Hero raises to t400, BTN raises to t1280, 2 folds, Hero raises to t9728 all in, BTN calls t8448

Flop: (t19776) J 8 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t19776) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t19776) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t19776
Hero shows Q A (a flush, Ace high)
BTN shows K A (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins t19776
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 04:11 PM
wow

Last edited by chasepoker; 09-15-2010 at 04:31 PM.
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 04:56 PM
take him down...

gl
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 04:57 PM
meh, not sure if this is bad or not. depends on how much air/missed draws are in his range vs A2-A9


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t30 - 3 players
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Hero (SB): t36746 M = 79.02
BB: t8940 M = 19.23
BTN: t21814 M = 46.91

Pre Flop: (t465) Hero is SB with J K
1 fold, Hero raises to t750, BB calls t500

Flop: (t1590) 8 A J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (t1590) A (2 players)
Hero bets t850, BB raises to t2250, Hero calls t1400

River: (t6090) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t5910 all in, Hero calls t5910

Final Pot: t17910
Hero shows J K (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
BB shows 3 A (three of a kind, Aces)
BB wins t17910
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 04:58 PM
Same villain as above..close call.


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t30 - 3 players
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Hero (BB): t24786 M = 53.30
BTN: t20750 M = 44.62
SB: t21964 M = 47.23

Pre Flop: (t465) Hero is BB with A A
BTN raises to t625, SB calls t500, Hero raises to t2000, BTN raises to t20720 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls t18720

Flop: (t42155) 9 K 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t42155) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t42155) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t42155
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
BTN shows 4 A (a pair of Fours)
Hero wins t42155
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by majagual
take him down...

gl
ty huhu now 46k-21.5k
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 05:15 PM
chicken dinner..rd 2 + itm i think


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t35 - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t43721 M = 84.08
BTN/SB: t23779 M = 45.73

Pre Flop: (t520) Hero is BB with K T
BTN/SB raises to t900, Hero raises to t3000, BTN/SB calls t2100

Flop: (t6070) K 5 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t3300, BTN/SB calls t3300

Turn: (t12670) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t17444 all in, Hero calls t17444

River: (t47558) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t47558
Hero shows K T (a pair of Kings)
BTN/SB shows 2 A (a pair of Deuces)
Hero wins t47558
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 05:18 PM
gj,
and you're right $1925
gl in the next round..
take down 18 more and the bracelet is yours
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 05:18 PM
weee GL
hope u get some run good!!
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by miw210
chicken dinner..rd 2 + itm i think


Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t35 - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t43721 M = 84.08
BTN/SB: t23779 M = 45.73

Pre Flop: (t520) Hero is BB with K T
BTN/SB raises to t900, Hero raises to t3000, BTN/SB calls t2100

Flop: (t6070) K 5 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t3300, BTN/SB calls t3300

Turn: (t12670) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t17444 all in, Hero calls t17444

River: (t47558) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t47558
Hero shows K T (a pair of Kings)
BTN/SB shows 2 A (a pair of Deuces)
Hero wins t47558
nice!

yeah itm.

11-100 pays $1925

just win one more sitngo and we have a final table! gl
miw210 WCOOP '10 Rail Quote
09-15-2010 , 05:22 PM
well done! Always happy with how you play!
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