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02-07-2015 , 07:57 AM
Payments Update

Private Investor 4.705% (PH) £282.49 (Paid)
Giovanni44 14.115% $1330.52 (Paid)
U shove i call 2.823% £169.50 (Paid)
Another Private Investor 9.41% (JJ) £564.99 (Paid)
Cerebral 0.941% $88.70 (awaiting confirmation of PP details)
BatPoker 0.941% $88.70 (awaiting confirmation of PP details)
My NLHE Deep Stack Coach 3% £180.12 (Paid)

(As per the original terms of the offer, I have landed funds in each of the investor's accounts in their source currency without them incurring any charges or exchange rate fees.)
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02-07-2015 , 08:36 AM
AWESOME EPT Grand Final Monte Carlo schedule has just popped up on the EPT web site April 28th to May 8th, it includes PLO Slow Structure, PLO Turbo, No Limit Omaha Hi Lo, Pot Limit H.O.R.S.E., Limit Razz, Pot Limit 8 Game and Pot Limit Courschevel High Lo Turbo!!

The EPT Monte Carlo Grand Final schedule is here: http://www.europeanpokertour.com/tou...ts/grandfinal/

All of the above are €200 to €1K Buy Ins so I'd like to play them all. There are one or two that clash, e.g. one comp at 2 pm and the next at 7 pm, so will be some "back ups/2nd choices".

There is also a €5K PLO Slow Structure.

I will definitely be putting up a package of the above combining it with the €700 Paddy Power Irish Open PLO which is on 4th to 7th April.

This will be Package A which I will look to sell probably about 40% of.

Package B will be just for the €5K PLO Slow Structure which I would need to sell about 65% of to play.

I have quite a lot of business emails to answer and then a fair bit of updating of my live MTT stats, but once done I will post the packages in the Selling Shares Live section.

In the meantime, if any one has a general interest in either/both packages please pm me or type in this thread.

Similar to the Deauville package I will be adding a small mark up, but I will also be absorbing any bank charges and FX costs both in and out, which accounts for a lot of the MU.

I haven't got all the figures yet but as a general idea:

Package A: Will be the €700 PLO Irish Open event and all the PLO/PLO8/Omaha Hi LO, 8 Game, Razz and H.O.R.S.E. events with a total buy in of Circa €4500 and I will be selling 40% at 1.15

Package B: Will be the €5K PLO Slow Structure and I will be selling 65% at 1.08

Last edited by SageDonkey; 02-07-2015 at 08:50 AM.
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02-07-2015 , 10:43 PM
EPT Deauville Overall Trip Report

Thanks to all investors and to everyone else following this thread. It's nice to know that there is a virtual rail out there.

I'll make this a few bite size chunks covering some extra areas and topics not already in my previous posts. This is "The Director's Cut", "Unseen Footage", the stuff you only get when you buy the box set.

The bite sized chunks are in no particular order, just the order that they happen to be loading into my brain as I type.

The Talisman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5apnvHeLRuw
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=75939

Having got his permission to name him, the investor JJ in this package and in a few others that I have is JJ Hazan. (A few of you who are UK based would probably have guessed that anyway.) I've swapped equity with him a few times also.

I played a fair proportion of my 2 years of PLO and Dealers Choice cash games with/against him as well so he has a very good idea of my poker ability. He didn't play the kind of long DeGen style cash sessions that I did, he set himself a sensible cut off time to leave the game, e.g. 1 a.m.

This is itself is an indication of his level headedness and he has a lot of experience in poker generally, knowledge of players and all related things.

He has his detractors amongst some of the modern day players because he has his own style and methods, he is excellent at reading players and is particularly good in mixed games, PLO etc as well as very dangerous at NLHE.

What is significant is that I have never played poorly in either a cash game or a package of tournaments when he has been either at the same table, backed me or swapped equity with me.

Clearly I have played poorly on occasions but when JJ has some kind of involvement, never. I guess you can put this down to the principle that if there is someone there or with an interest that has or shows confidence in you that you will never want to let them down, so this is why he is my talisman, a kind of safety net or insurance policy to always do my best to play my best. Being a bit of a joker like myself, he naturally 5 seconds after I texted that I wanted permission to name him as a talisman on this thread, he texted that he now wants/deserves to get any future investments at a discount to par!

I think he is getting a little carried away. I didn't tell him he had the talismanic/mentoring skills of Sir Alex Ferguson........ I was thinking more somewhere between Christian Gross and André Villas-Boas. (you'll need to know a bit about British football to understand this)

I had a rail of some friends at the UKIPT £200 PLO but no live rail whatsoever on either of my FTs at EPT Deauville. JJ was in effect my live rail for those FTs as I gave him updates by text and he texted encouragement and a few quips back.

Here's a little group of texts from the €300 PLO Turbo in which I came 3rd.
(Please note that his general overview of my game, before this series started is that I play a bit too tight)

Texts:

Cliff: "Tripled up in level 2. Have 3x the average."
JJ: "Lol, bet you don't what to do now!"
.................................................. .......................
Cliff: "Down to 20K losing big maths based pot".
JJ: "Okay, just grind away now son".
.................................................. .......................
Cliff: "Just tripled, 54K again, Don't call me a grinder!"
JJ: "Lol, I told u you didn't know what to do with those chips."
Back to you known game now. Cash assured....."

These little texts alone show clearly why JJ is a great man to have in your corner/in your team.

By the way I think he is deadly at PLO8 comps and if there's a mixed type comp with multiple games in it, many of which such as Stud games require the technical knowledge and just as importantly hand reading and people reading skills.


Sometimes a superior opponent will knock you down in the ring and you have to take an 8 count and make it to the bell at the end of the round.

This happened to me on about the 3rd hand of day 1 of the €1000 PLO Blue Riband event. I am bit hand historied out so I'll just say that the eventual winner Franck Jouve http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=351333 played some high level, deceptive, clever stuff against me and won 40% of my 12K stack in that one hand. It was unorthodox play multi-way from the small blind but he played it perfectly and maximised value from me.

He outplayed me. He doesn't have that much history cashing wise before Deauvlille but he played fantastically well throughout (I was on his table 85% of the time), he was impossible to read, and a very deserved winner.

I was so badly outplayed that I calmly got up and went for a walk to regroup. This was a 50 minute clock so with 7.2K of chips and blinds at 25/50 getting up to regroup was the right thing to do.

I basically walked around, got a drink and gave myself a good talking to, telling myself that I had to increase my level on all fronts and to dredge up from somewhere my very best skills.

I returned to the table and fairly quickly lost 3 or 4 more small pots. I didn't play badly as such in those pots but after the 4th one I realised what I was doing wrong. It was that my starting hand range (not table position) needed tightening up because I was playing against a much better standard of player at this table where the edges are much smaller and the margin for playing error much smaller too.

Franck was immediately on my left, and this turned out to be The Table of Death. In the first day between 12 and 15 players were knocked out on it.

After about the 6th bust out, as soon as the busted player was well, well out of sight and sound I said after each bust out...... "La prochain victime, s'il vous plait" (the next victim please)

That's right, I do speak a bit of French, French and Maths were by far my best two subjects at school, and by the end of the week in Deauville I was churning out a few accurately spoken sentences in the hotel, the casino and to taxi drivers.

Once I tightened up my starting hand range things started to improve and by the end of day 1 I was on the average chips, so a decent recovery from a very bad start.

There will always be times when you are outplayed in a particular hand or overall outclassed by an opponent. Fortunately you can work around that opponent and/or you can gradually work out a way to close the gap or even overtake the player in skill or strategy throughout the tournament. Franck had position on me so I was cautious anyway and he could tell over many hours of play in a 2 day comp that I was a capable player so he didn't particularly want to get into lots of pots with me anyway.

Lack of interaction with other UK players at Deauville

I reckon there were maybe 50 to 70 British players there who were playing NLHE comps and the very occasional PLO comp. I am certain that I was the only British player that went there exclusively for all the PLO comps.

Out of that 50 to 70 I estimate maybe 15 to 20 knew each other, in the sense that were top 500 or so ranked on line players on Pocket Fives, of a similar 20 something age, and had traveled a lot of the live circuit together and often socialised together too. This is great and I am sure a lot of these factors, and some financial ones such as backing each other or swapping equity, have played a major positive role in these players' progress into top, top on line and live MTT players carving out very successful careers for themselves, and doing it in a relatively short period of time. I've got a lot of respect for this, indeed for any form of hard work and dedication in any field or any walk of life.

Indeed I have often and still do Tweet wp, gl, congrats etc to many of this group of players, even when I haven't met them because they are part of the UK poker community. A lot of the younger players that I do not know well or whom I have never met I do have indirect links to because I know a few people who know them well.

Being an occasional backer of players I have also backed some of the newer generation of players, so I am not entirely off the Venn Diagram of which players are associated or linked to which others.

This group, and it may have been more like 3 groups of 5, or possibly no group at all, but certainly players who knew each other at least in the online world, barely gave me a glance if we walked past each other (the playing area at EPT Deauville *is* relatively small), I was never once asked how I was doing or how I did and I never once had any kind of conversation with any other British player on strategy or even anything mundane such as the quality of the hot dogs that you could buy at the venue.

I found this a little bit weird, seeing as I was there for a week, I was in 1or 2 of the same tournaments, I Tweeted one or two players saying maybe have a beer and I have been all over 2plus2 and Twitter recently talking about these PLOs MTTs.

I didn't want to go out to dinner with any of he other British players and I don't even drink, but I think a little bit of normal poker interaction would have been, well, more normal.

I even found out that a group of players were staying in a hotel in the same road as me, 150 metres away.

Now I am not expecting any of these players to know or even think about whether this slightly unusual SageDonkey character is traveling with a group of players or not, with his girlfriend or maybe just here for one 1 day tournament and then heading off. But after a few days it's obvious to them that like them I've traveled over and am trying my best in these tournaments, and yes to some degree am also representing the British group of players in France.

Why was there zero interaction? I can only guess, and all of my guesses could be totally wrong and probably only some of them are partly right.

Well I'm not part of the general group I described, I am not a NLHE player, I am not successful or active on line, and I probably come across as someone who is a bit above his station based on me not having done a great deal results wise in comparison to this group of top players. I really can't argue with my own analysis in this paragraph!

However, even if all of these reasons are exactly why I was either deliberately or subliminally avoided by the British group of players then I still think it is not +EV for anyone.

It certainly wasn't +EV for me for obvious reasons, having zero kind of in person support, encouragement or sounding board there (not that I am entitled to it or deserved it in any way)

It also wasn't +EV for other players because even if they are completely ambivalent about me as a player or a person and don't rate me as a player, then purely from a selfish poker point of view they still should have picked my brains, interacted a little, just in case I may have one little nugget of wisdom. If I haven't then nothing lost.

I would hope that interaction would be a bit more genuine than this but if it isn't it doesn't bother me as I am old enough and thick skinned enough by now.

As it happened, one key piece of information I would have imparted to any fellow British player that interacted with me was about me working out the different categories of French players. This piece of information I think is huge in PLO MTTs over there and in NLHE MTTs.

As those of you who backed me last time I played a PLO series in Deauville in 2012 will know, I bricked all of the PLOs and saved the day with a €10K cash for 2nd in a €300 NLHE Turbo back up tournament. I know this sounds like a lie because I am a NLHE fish, but it really did happen!

So this time around, and I called it in advance of playing the comps, I knew how the French played (even down to sub-categorising French players) and I basically played well in all of the comps.

I am not too bad a PLO player either. Perhaps the group of young NLHE British players didn't think this or even think about it, but I have got a very high cashing rate over what is now becoming a decent little sample of live comps.

So why did not one player ever talk to me about PLO MTTs, a particular PLO hand. strategy or anything? Some of them were playing in comps that I was in and even on the same table.

Obviously the exchange of information thing can be a bit delicate, but the general principle is one of give and take. Sure you might increase a competitors know how by 5% so that they are either 5% closer to you in skill or have moved 5% further ahead of you than they already were, but that is only You v Them.

You and they are now 5% better off against the whole of the rest of the world of players. So this exchange of information, skill and ideas, is one of the cornerstones of dedicated players improving their game.

I should add that one of the group of players did bust out on my table in the last hand before the break so I said that he was unlucky and I started talking about the hand, because it was Franck Jouve, the guy who had owned me earlier, who busted him out and it was with the same unusual and unorthodox playing of wheel cards strategy.

In hindsight it's probably not a good idea to talk about a hand, to someone you barely know, straight after they've busted. It was in no way a rub down or anything like that. I did it because I thought it might have been of interest to him to know about the player playing a lot of wheel cards, so if talking about the hand straight after it happened caused any offence or was at all out of order in any way then I really apologise for it.

Incidentally, I don't think whether I had spoken about this hand or not would have made any difference to the lack of interaction with other players, as it was already a few days into the festival and none had happened to that point and didn't look like happening.

My last thing on the subject it this. I don't expect interaction with other players, I don't deserve it, and it is in no contract either written or unwritten. It is just something that has always happened between players at all live venues I've ever played at, and this is the first time that this has happened to me with no interaction at all. Gl to all the British players who were there, none of them did anything bad to me.

(I'll be pm ing the player who I discussed the hand with to apologise personally in case he perceived it as a rub down and to link him to this thread, as there is no way I would ever post anything behind somebody's back relating to them. The player's name will remain anonymous unless they want to post ITT of course) He is a nice guy by the way.

Broken Dreams

After the debacle of my €1K PLO Turbo and the horrendous €200 NLHE that I played like an idiot afterwards, I was feeling quite down in my hotel room.

The package is half way through, my hotel is a nightmare and I my back is really up against the wall.

Then for the first time I became aggravated by the wristbands (sorry can't remember the French term) that you get given to wear as your id into a comp. You know like in a night club or when you're in hospital. There is a pic of me wearing two on Twitter @sagedonkey Just click on my images section and scroll through. I make the joke about the hospital thing in the caption.

I look down and I have 4 of them on my left wrist. Why do players wear them and not remove them after each comp is over. Simple, it's a badge of honour, medal for bravery, a battle scar, maybe even just a plain old brag of what a baller you are for having the roll to enter all of these comps.

I'm as guilty as the next man or woman. I had no intention of taking these off until the whole of the festival was over and I fully intended to accumulate 7 on my wrist so that I would look the part.

But after this double brick and all the other stupid little things to do with the hotel and the travel problems that I had that day the wristbands were genuinely irritating me both physically and psychologically.

So having no scissors, I got some nail clippers out and freed myself from these manacles of poker failure.

Then in a moment of dark artistic inspiration, some may say madness, or more likely sheer boredom, I cathartically cut them into smaller pieces and arranged them into what I entitled "Broken Dreams" and Tweeted the image. Again, if you'd like to see "Broken Dreams" please scroll through my @sagedonkey images and you will see it.

I even got a couple of retweets and some positive comments, which at first I thought were a joke but turned out to be serious, that they liked my poker art and suggested I should do more. Maybe I will, I have an artistic leaning and loads of other poker art ideas, although usually it's the spontaneous "real" art that is the best and that has the most impact. We'll see about more poker art.... watch this space.

Know your players. / A French poker legend (for me anyway)

I've mentioned a number of times that the French play differently to what we are used to and sometimes really weird, and in a Patrick Leonard (Pleno/Pads) staking thread a few weeks ago I wrote a piece about live MTT poker including how, as I put it, "the course plays different at different venues, and in different countries."

One man that epitomises this is French poker legend (certainly by sheer volume of
tournaments played, Paul Testud http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=229

I first encountered him in a €2K PLO at EPT London in 2012.

He plays the trappiest, most small ball game I have ever seen in PLO. And if he's doing it in PLO where playing trappy through the streets you would think is impossible, then he most certainly must be doing it in NLHE where trappy small ball play is much more viable and possible to execute, although in the modern day will be -EV in quite a number of spots.

I played around 12 hours on the same table as him across two of the PLO comps and he NEVER, yes NEVER raised once pre flop, either when he had a small stack, a medium stack, or a monster stack which he did have in one comp. He always limped too, never opened once. Never raised whether it was shallow or deep and virtually never raised on the flop or turn. Occasionally as the final act of a trappy hand he raised on the river, but that's it.

I can tell you that he was consistently one of the best players in all the PLOs that I played. Why hasn't he got 1 or 2 really huge scores in his record. (he has some big ones, but not huge). Well it's reasonably certain the reason is that he carries on playing small ball even at the business end of a comp so this lack of changing gears is a handicap to getting a monster score.

He also has this weird thing he does with his cards, which having seen him do it dozens of times I think is purely involuntary, where he shapes to muck his cards pre flop and then draws them back to the cloth and calls.

When he passes pre, the mucking motion is totally different. In the €1K Blue Riband PLO in which he was 4th and me 6th I could tell part way through that he didn't like me, or specifically he didn't like the way I was playing. At the business end of a comp in particular I do drop all chat and bonhomie at the table, I become far more deliberate, take more time on decisions, never muck quickly etc, because all decisions are so crucial and because I don't want to give away any potential timing tells, or I could be trying to build a library of fake timing tells for others to see to then fool a player into misreading a timing tell.

This slightly longer than average perpetual dwell does get on a few players' nerves and if I notice this then I of course will do it even more.

He had a few older guy French poker buddies in other comps (I think he must be mid 60s perhaps) who from time to time came over for a chat, and I could see from his body language and picking up a few words here and there that he was moaning to them about me.

Something sad is this. The first time I saw him pick up chips very near the beginning of what turned out to be quite a gruelling 2 day comp, his hands were shaking, not with nerves but with something that you could clearly see was associated with the body's overall central nervous system, clearly something medically serious. He wasn't like this just 3 years ago.

Then after the first break when he walked back to the table he had really bad difficulties in walking and keeping balance. This is really sad to see in any person.

As I said, his playing style is amazing and I admire it for its individuality and for its longevity. We spent two days of poker play out there together, often on the same table in what turned out to be a war of attrition with what I believe were most of the cream of the field ultimately rising to the top, including the winner Franck Pouve who currently is an unknown, Eddie Maksoud who I was mightily impressed with (a small piece on him coming up) and who I found out afterwards is a top player, Olaf Haglund a very good Swedish player, Paul Testud himself and Anton Wigg who I knew all about.

When I went to the EPT desk to sort out the cashing I was shortly followed by Paul Testud who busted shortly afterwards. No words were spoken, but we exchanged a glance and a smile, his big gleaming teeth saying "well played us", and with it some mutual respect. A very nice feeling, and I highlight of my trip. Hopefully he has just a temporary condition that can be fixed and I wish him well.

I Was Mightily Impressed x 100!

Eddy Maksoud http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=231392

I have to be honest and say that from our play at the same tables I don;t know for sure whether he is a good PLO MTT player, very good or exceptional. He is certainly good at the bare minimum.

But...... I have never seen anyone with such an incredibly calm disposition and calm aura about him at the table. It was amazing to see. I wish I had even 50% of this table calmness, I could ditch the shades and that scarf forever. It was the best you'll ever see and clearly an big, big positive and advantage in poker.

Hopefully someone who reads this will relay this compliment over to him. I still can't believe how good he was in terms of calmness.

A Little bit of Lazarus

Those of you who read the €1K Blue Riband PLO report will know that I got mega lucky
when I was flopped almost dead with about 16 players. It was a against Eddy Maksoud (I had about 16K and he had chunks) and I believe I was about 8% on the flop to win the pot and 2% to chop, the turn took away all win outs and I hit the case 8 on the river for the chop. I instantly announced "it's a chop", a player not involved in the pot said "no, he;s got Jacks Full of Eights". He didn't, I recognise a minor miracle when I see one.

I don't feel luck overall in the series. Looking back, I ran well under EV in 4 or 5 big ICM pots, but that one outer on the river in that pot kept me alive and I turned 9 BBs into €4140, then the €2690 in the final comp..... and then who knows what in the short and medium term. On these small things much can change.
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Conclusion

I think I have improved my game as a result of this group of comps and learned in other areas of life too. I am pleased that I could recover from a good playing but non cashing start and I want to carry on improving and make further upward progress.

Thanks very much for reading.

Last edited by SageDonkey; 02-07-2015 at 11:12 PM.
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02-08-2015 , 03:29 PM
Payments Update and the next group of comps I'm playing plus the package I will be offering for them.

Payments Update

Private Investor 4.705% (PH) £282.49 (Paid)
Giovanni44 14.115% $1330.52 (Paid)
U shove i call 2.823% £169.50 (Paid)
Another Private Investor 9.41% (JJ) £564.99 (Paid)
Cerebral 0.941% $88.70 (Paid)
BatPoker 0.941% $88.70 (awaiting confirmation of PP details)
My NLHE Deep Stack Coach 3% £180.12 (Paid)

Next group of comps / package

I got a bit over excited when I saw the EPT Grand Final, Monte Carlo schedule pop up. It is awesome but it has a 2 day gap in the middle with no comps for me and the €5K PLO is a 20K stack on a 30 minute clock. Given that the field size won't be huge for the €5K I would want a 50 minute clock so that I can grind players down, so 30 minutes is a semi-turbo and puts me off.

Aside from that, I would be looking at £2000 (€2600) of expenses to play the full 14 days schedule that includes all the PLOs/PLO8s and Mixed Games. This is too much in expenses both as a monetary number and as a percentage of total buy ins, particularly as 70% of total buy ins are on one comp.

I do intend to play these bigger buy ins at some stage because I believe that I can handle the better players in PLO MTTs as I have railed 100s of hours of high stakes ($25/$50 up to $200/$400 on line cash games and I know and understand that there is a lot more repping, triple barreling with air, and your range versus my range type of play)

Even at £5/£10 (€5/€10) live cash PLO which I have played occasionally live in London and in France there is a lot more of this style of play happening than in smaller games.

So not worried about a big buy in PLO MTT whatsoever but I will save this for a time when the incidental costs in relation to the overall package costs and the amount of leverage on buy ins (i.e. bigger field sizes) makes more economic sense.

Having said all this about the EPT Grand Final Monte Carlo schedule, I am still gong to play there, in a slimmed down schedule of events played from May 5th until May 7th.

I will be knowingly breaking the guidelines above regarding expenses versus buy ins and leverage, but I will be playing for the experience of playing in the world famous Casino at Monte Carlo and in doing so visiting one of the most beautiful places in the world, so of the €600 Euros of expenses for my 4 day trip I am effectively spending half for the pure enjoyment of what I am doing and experiencing and half as "playing poker to make a profit" expenses. I have been to Monaco before but this was well before I was interested in poker, and I didn't visit the casino.

This is not a principle that I will be applying in the long run, but I may well apply it for a first ever visit to an exciting place or venue, and then after that the expenses next time, e.g the next time I play Monte Carlo, will have to make economic poker sense.

The other PLO comp I am definitely playing is the Paddy Power Irish Open €700 PLO on 5th April and a similar thing applies regarding expenses versus buy in. I have never visited Dublin or Ireland before so again I justify the €350 in expenses this way. However, this is a Double Chance which along with Triple Chance is my favourite PLO format and this could be a good size field because PLO is very popular in Ireland.

So the upcoming tournaments I am playing are:

April 5th: Paddy Poker Irish Open: €700 PLO Double Chance
May 5th: EPT Grand Final Monte Carlo: €200 PLO Turbo
May 6th: EPT Grand Final Monte Carlo: €1000 PLO (2 Day Event)
May 7th: EPT Grand Final Monte Carlo: €1000 PLO (Day 2, 12 pm)
May 7th: EPT Grand Final Monte Carlo: €500 8 Game, 2 pm, if not still in PLO
May 7th: EPT Grand Final Monte Carlo: €200 NL Omaha Hi/Lo Turbo, 10 pm

The €1000 PLO has a re-entry option but I won't be taking this, for technical reasons that I will explain as and when this comp is included in a package.

So without meaning to sound blasé about it, because €3K is a lot of money, the events above are only €2860 including juice if I were to bust the maximum times and enter all of them.

I would prefer to sell equity in a bigger package than this if possible (35% to 60% of a package that is €4K to €8K) so I am going to wait a little bit and try to source some other PLO events that are taking place in March, April and May to then combine everything into one package. I have been searching The Hendon Mob and not much is coming up yet that is viable.

There is a good PLO in Stockholm (expenses too high), a €3K at EPT Malta (expenses are cheap there) but it is a 15 minute clock! Yeah would have an edge but overall a bit too risky, for that level of buy in.

There may well be an Omaha series of comps in March, PLO/PLO8/PLO4/5/6 at the Grosvenor Victoria Casino in London (I've played there loads in PLO cash and MTTs). It's usually 3 to 5 comps in the £200 to £500 range, so these would be ideal to add to the Dublin and Monte Carlo comps to create a really balanced package with plenty of opportunities and some nice theoretical variance flattening.

Those following this thread will know that my hotel booking game was poor in Deauville and almost very costly from a results point of view. I have just booked my Monte Carlo hotel, read about 30 reviews of it on Trip Advisor and it is definitely under 500 metres walk from the casino, no water hazards in between, and it will be nicer weather, so I am optimistic that I'll arrive for every tournament 100% relaxed.

I have already received a number of pre-reserves for the next PLO package that I offer, from investors in the Deauvllle package, from some people who have liked what they have seen in my tournament reports and from a British Mixed/PLO specialist who I met at the UKIPT €200 PLO and who has been encouraging throughout this package and who would like to invest in the next one.

So I am very keen to put a package up for all of these investors and a few more. If I can't find any more PLO comps to add in then I will still do a Dublin/Monte Carlo package but there won't be a huge amount of equity in terms of total Euros to offer.

Typing errors, misstated hands in tournament reports.

I do my best to remember hands exactly and to proof read posts but clearly there will
be occasional mistakes or typos.

My triple up recovery hand in the €300 PLO Turbo should have said two pairs, 10s and 6s. "Peeing" in the failed maths play hand was obviously "Peeling", although peeing is possibly a better description of how he played it.

In that maths based play I couldn't remember the hand of the TAG American player Matt. I may be able to find out as I am emailing him today.

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02-08-2015 , 04:09 PM
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02-08-2015 , 09:50 PM
Package Results Summary

25/1/15 £200 UKIPT PLO 12th of 50 (£0) Rating of my play 9.7/10
30/1/15 €500 PLO Turbo EPT Deauville 44th of 166 (£0) Rating 10/10
1/2/15 €1000 PLO Turbo EPT Deauville 29th of 72 (£0) Rating 8.5/10
1/2/15 €200 NLHE EPT Deauville 266th of 284 (£0) Rating 3.5/10
3/2/15 €1000 PLO EPT Deauville 6th of 68 (€4140) Rating 8.8/10
4/2/15 €200 PLO Turbp EPT Deauville 3rd of 67 (€2690) Rating 10/10
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02-08-2015 , 10:00 PM
My updated career live MTT results and stats up to and including 5/2/2015

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=175387

Live MTT Career Record Summary
Total tournaments = 116
Wins 3
2nd places: 7
3rd places: 7
Average buy in (including juice) £264
Average number of runners = 70.38
Average finishing position = 32nd (31.98)
Cashes 37/116 32%
Final Tables 48/116 41%
Final Tables where 40 runners or more 21/72 29%
Total entry fees (including juice) = £30642
Total prize money = £47513
ROI (including juice) = 55%
Average Career Rating of my play 8.3278
Average rating over the last 10 Tournaments 8.95


1. 11/3/2010 £60 NLHE, The International Private Members Club, London, 68 Runners 9th £136 (Final Table) (Rating of my own play 8/10)

2. 7/4/2010 £650 NLHE Cash Race Final (see notes) The International, 85 Runners 2nd £8250 (Final Table) (Rating 9.5/10)

3. 16/4/2010 £10 (£45 spent by me) NLHE Rebuy, The International, 75 Runners 10th £70 (Final Table) (Rating 9/10)

4. 2/5/2010 £350 NLHE, GUKPT, The Vic, 100 Runners 51st £0 (Rating 6/10)

5. June 2010 £115 NLHE, The International, 48 Runners 14th £0 (Rating 8/10)

6. July 2010 £165 +£15 NLHE, The International, 54 Runners 20th £0 (Rating 7/10)

7. 6/8/2010 £1250 NLHE Cash Race Final (see notes) The International, 50 Runners 13th £600 (Rating 4/10)

8. 12/8/2010 £40 NLHE, The International, 137 Runners 50th £0 (Rating 9/10)

9. 13/8/2010 £115 PLO, The International, 23 Runners 5th, £0, (Final Table) (Rating 8.5/10)

10. 15/8/2010 £60 NLHE, The International, 82 Runners 10th £100 (Final Table) (Rating 7.5/10)

11. 20/8/2010 £55 NLHE Bounty, The International, 49 Runners 10th £60 (Final Table) (Rating 8.5/10)

12. 22/8/2010 £58 NLHE rebuy sat to GUKPT £750 NLHE, The Vic, 62 runners 48th £0 (Rating 8/10)

13. 24/8/2010 £330 NLHE GUKPT, The Vic, 123 runners 117th £0 (rating 2/10)

14. 28/8/2010 £330 PLO GUKPT, The Vic, 50 runners 34th £0 (rating 7/10)

15. 2/9/2010 £225 GSOP PLO, The International, 44 Runners 9th £0 (Final Table) (rating 9.7/10)

16. 10/9/2010 £500 PLO Satellite to WSOPE £5000 PLO, Empire Casino, runners 17, 13th, £0 (Rating 8.5/10)

17. 18/9/2010 £55 NLHE Forum Team Challenge Cup, The International, 56 runners 9th £95 (Final Table) (rating 10/10)

18. 24/9/2010 £550 PLO Double Chance, European Poker Championships, The Vic, 66 Runners 3rd £5030 (Final Table) (Rating 9.5/10)

19. 1/10/2010 £430 PLO Turbo Bounty, EPT London, 59 Runners 4th £1800 (Final Table) (Rating 9.9/10)

20. 2/10/2010 £1100 PLO, EPT London, 59 Runners, 12th, £0, (Rating 8.5/10)

21. 4/10/2010 £1100 PLO8, EPT London, 54 Runners, 33rd, £0 (Rating 7.5/10)

22. 19/10/2010 £115 PLO, The International, 25 Runners, 21st, £0, (Rating 10/10)

23. 29/10/2010 £70 NLHE Sat, The International, 42 Runners, 29th, £0, (Rating 6/10)

24. 2/11/2010 £115 PLO, The International, 13 Runners, 3rd, £260, (Rating 8.8/10)

25. 7/11/2010 £60 P.R.O.P.S., The International, 30 Runners, 4th, £165, (Rating 10/10) P.R.O.P.S. is All Pot Limit, PLO, Razz, PLO8, Padooki and Supertsud.

26. 19/11/2010 £550 GUKPT PLO, The Vic, 31 Runners, 15th, £0, (Rating 7.2/10)

27. 25/11/2010 £215 Players Championship P.R.O.P.S., 45 Runners, 26th, £0, (Rating 9/10) P.R.O.P.S. is All Pot Limit, PLO, Razz, PLO8, Padooki and Supertsud.

28. 30/11/2010 £390 Players Championship NLHE, The International, 183 Runners, 125th, £0, (Rating 6/10)

29. 17/12/2010 £70 NLHE, 113 Runners, The International, 96th, £0, (Rating 5/10)

30. 4/1/2011 £115 P.R.O.P.S., The International, 18 Runners, 3rd, £360, (Final Table), (Rating 10/10)

31. 8/1/2011 £45 PLO, Fox Poker Club, 28 Runners, 4th, £250, (Final Table), (Rating 9.5/10)

32. 1/2/2011 £115 P.R.O.P.S., The International, 17 Runners, 4th, £0, (Final Table), (Rating 8.5/10)

33. 1/2/2011 £33 NLHE, 64 Runners, The International, 17th, £0, (Rating 9.0/10)

I multi tabled Tournaments 32 & 33 which handicapped me in both. Not a good idea in hindsight.

34. 12/2/2011 £500 + £60 (Entry cost £55 total via satellites) NLHE, UKIPT Nottingham, 1057 Runners, 950th, £0, (Rating 4/10)

35. 13/2/2011 £100 + £12 (£212 spent) NLHE Rebuy Satellite to the £1500 NLHE High Roller, UKIPT Nottingham, 51 Runners, 30th, £0, (Rating 9.5/10)

36. 15/2/2011 £115 PLO, 11 Runners, The International, 1st, £550, (Final Table!) (Rating 9/10).

37. 22/2/2011 £60 H.O.R.S.E., The International, 20 Runners, 11th, £0, (Rating 7.8/10).

38. 1/3/2011 £115 P.R.O.P.S., The International, 11 runners, 3rd, £220, (Final Table!), Rating 8.8/10. P.R.O.P.S. is All Pot Limit, PLO, Razz, PLO8, Padooki and Supertsud.

39. 9/3/2011, £58 R.O.E. NLHE/PLO, Fox Poker Club, 21 runners, 4th, £130, Final Table, Rating 9.0/10.

40. 11/3/2011, £330 GUKPT PLO, The Vic, 64 runners, 58th, £0, Rating 7.0/10.

41. 12/3/2011, £48 PLO8, Fox Poker Club, 25 runners, 19th, £0, Rating 8.0/10.

42. 16/3/2011, £58 R.O.E. NLHE/PLO, Fox Poker Club, 6 runners, 2nd, £90, Final Table, Rating 9.2/10.

43. 21/3/2011, £230 LPM H.O.R.S.E., The International, 17 runners, 5th, £0, Final Table, Rating 9.0/10.

44.27/3/2011, LPM £58 NLHE, The International, 73 runners, 35th, £0, Rating 7.0/10.

45. 29/3/2011, £20 PLO Rebuy (I spent £48, average spend was £78), The International, 18 runners, 12th, £0, Rating 10.0/10.

46. 9/4/2011, Forum Team Challenge £38 NLHE, The International, 83 runners, 28th, £0, Rating 8.5/10.

47. 12/4/2011, £20 PLO Rebuy (I spent £25, average spend was £53), The International, 12 runners, 9th, (Final Table!) £0, Rating 8.5/10.

48. 10/5/2011, £60 PLO Double Chance, The International, 27 runners, 11th, £0, Rating 6/10.

49. 17/5/2011, £60 PLO Double Chance, 25 runners, The International, 11th, £0, Rating 10/10.

50. 10/7/2011, £60 NLHE, 29 runners, The International, 11th, £0, Rating 7.0/10.

51. 15/7/2011 £5 NLHE Gutshot Freeroll Friday at The International , The International, 37 runners, 1st, £68, (Final Table), Rating 10/10.

52. 19/7/2011, £165 NLHE, Grosvenor London Championships, The Vic, 104 runners, 21st, £0, Rating 10/10.

53. 20/7/2011, £220 PLO, Grosvenor London Championships, The Vic, 83 runners, 15th, £0, Rating 8.5/10.[/COLOR]

54. 27/7/2011, £115 NLHE, The International, 55 runners, 10th, £100, (Final Table), Rating 9/10.

55. 2/8/2011, £60 PLO, The International, 19 runners, 1st, £540, (Final Table), Rating 9/10.

56. 5/8/2011, £33 NLHE, The International, 54 runners, 20th, £0, Rating 8/10.

57. 20/8/2011, £115 NLHE, The International, 48 runners, 6th, £288, (Final Table), Rating 10/10.

58. 22/8/2011, £70 NLHE Sat to GSOP £550, The International, 41 runners, 31st, £0, Rating 6.5/10.

59. 23/8/2011, £230 GSOP NLHE, The International, 116 runners, 32nd, £0, Rating 7.7/10.

60. 25/8/2011, £120 GSOP NLHE, The International, 117 runners, 113th, Rating 2/10.

61. 26/8/2011, £70 NLHE Sat to GSOP £550, The International, 81 runners, 14th, £0, Rating 10/10.

62. 27/8/2011, £550 GSOP NLHE, The International, 78 runners, 25th, Rating 9/10.

63. 29/8/2011, £120 GSOP NLHE, The International, 119 runners, 112th, Rating 3/10.

64. 30/8/2011, £60 PLO, The International, 19 runners, 6th, £0, (Final Table), Rating 8.5/10.

65. 7/9/2011, £60 PLO, The International, 25 runners, 8th, £0, (Final Table), Rating 10/10.

66. 14/9/2011, £60 PLO, The International, 23 runners, 2nd, £336, (Final Table), Rating 9.5/10.

67. 23/9/2011, £550 EPC PLO, The Vic, 41 runners, 9th, £0, (Final Table), Rating 9/10.

68. 29/9/2011, £550 EPT London 5 Card PLO8, Hilton Metropole, 47 runners, 11th, £0, Rating 9/10.

69. 4/10/2011, £220 + £200 Rebuy (£420 spent) PLO Satellite to the EPT London £2150 PLO, The Vic, 24 runners, 8th, £0, (Final Table), Rating 7.5/10.

70. 5/10/2011, £2150 EPT London PLO, Hilton Metropole, 66 runners, 17th, £0, Rating 8/10.

71. 12/10/2011, £165 GUKPT Coventry PLO Double Chance, G Casino Coventry, 47 runners, 6th, £420, (Final Table), Rating 9/10.

72. 13/10/2011, £220 GUKPT Coventry NLHE 6 Max, G Casino Coventry, 68 runners, 28th, Rating 7.5/10.

73. 15/10/2011, £48 Re-entry PLO (Spent £96), Fox Poker Club, 28 runners, 2nd, £385, (Final Table), Rating 7.5/10.

74. 15/10/2011 £38 NLHE, Fox Poker Club, 78 Runners, 14th, £0, Rating 10/10.

75. 17/10/2011, £48 NLHE "De-Gen", The International, 47 runners, 36th, £0, Rating 6/10.

76. 18/10/2011, £60 PLO, The International, 22 runners, 9th, £0, (Final Table), Rating 9.5/10.

77. 24/10/2011, £48 NLHE "De-Gen", The International, 42 runners, 5th, £126, (Final Table), Rating 9.5/10.

78. 26/10/2011, Euro 550 + Rebuys EPT San Remo PLO (I spent 1050 Euros, Average other player spend was 1545 Euros) , Casino San Remo, 20 runners, 13th, £0, Rating 10/10.

79. 27/10/2011, Euro 330 + 300 Bounty Turbo EPT San Remo R.O.E. NLHE/PLO, Casino San Remo, 25 runners, 25th, £0, Rating 7/10.

80. 29/10/2011, £115 H.O.R.S.E. London's Calling Festival, Fox Poker Club, 26 Runners, 4th, £280, (Final Table), Rating 9/10.

81. 31/10/2011, £48 NLHE "De-Gen", The International, 53 runners, 26th, £0, Rating 10/10.

82. 1/11/2011, £60 PLO, The International, 22 runners, 3rd (3 way chop agreed when close in chips), £350, (Final Table), Rating 8.5/10.

83. 5/11/2011, £165 PLO, London Calling Festival, Fox, 15 runners, 9th, £0, (Final Table!), Rating 7.5/10.

84. 17/11/2011 £170 P.R.O.P.S., The Players Championship, The International, 32 runners, 19th, £0, Rating 9.5/10.

85. 19/11/2011, £390 NLHE, The Players Championship, The International, 92 runners, 43rd, £0, Rating 7.5/10.

86. 23/11/2011, £250 (£25 to Charity) BFGIII Invitational NLHE, The International, 30 runners, 17th, £0, Rating 8/10.

87. 25/11/2011, £330 GUKPT PLO, The Vic, 73 runners, 2nd (chopped 1st place prize money but lost heads up), £5000, (Final Table), Rating 10/10.

88. 27/11/2011, £100 + Rebuys + Add on GUKPT PLO (I spent £210, average spend was £326), The Vic, 42 runners, 14th, £0, Rating 9/10.

89. 3/12/2011, £275 GUKPT PLO8, The Vic, 55 runners, 8th, £0, (Final Table), Rating 9/10.

90. 15/12/2011 (approx.), £38 NLHE, The International, 15 runners, 15th, £0, Rating 7/10. (played this during a short break in the middle of a 27 hour Dealers Choice cash game session so was not exactly sharp and played quite badly in it. But won £1200 in the cash game!)

91. 10/1/2012 £115 P.R.O.P.S., The International, 37 Runners, 3rd, £850, (Final Table), (Rating 9/10) P.R.O.P.S. is All Pot Limit, PLO, Razz, PLO8, Padooki and Supertsud.

92. 14/1/2012 £35 NLHE The International Team Event, The International, 11 teams, Team finished 2nd, £46, (rating 10/10)
* I was the non-playing team captain but awarded a share of team prize money by my team mates, despite me not having made a buy in, for my contribution to the team. (This is also acknowledged on The Hendon Mob official database of world listed events!)

93. 22/1/2012 €250 EFOP H.O.R.S.E., Aviation Club de France, 62 Runners, 20th, €0, (Rating 7.5/10).

94. 23/1/2012 €50 R + AO Sat to EFOP €1K PLO (€150 spent), Aviation Club de France, 50 Runners, 30th, €0, (Rating 8/10).

95. 24/1/2012 EFOP €1K PLO, Aviation Club de France, 111 Runners, 76th, €0, (Rating 8.5/10).

96. 25/1/2012, €750 Sat to EFOP €5K NLHE ME, Aviation Club de France, 70 runners, 30th, €0, Rating 9/10.

97. 28/1/2012, £50 + 1R PLO (£58 spent), Fox London, 9 runners, 8th, £0, (Final Table!), Rating 8/10.

98. 2/2/2012, €1100 PLO EPT Deauville, 116 runners, 48th, €0, Rating 8.5/10.

99. 3/2/2012 €330 NLHE Turbo Mens Event EPT Deauville, 216 runners, 2nd, €10,700 after making a deal 3 handed, (Final Table) (rating 9/10)

100. 5/2/2012, €550 PLO EPT Deauville, 44 runners, 33rd, €0, Rating 9/10.

101. 6/2/2012 €120 NLHE Hyper Turbo EPT Deauville, 85 runners, 58th, €0, (rating 10/10)

102. 11/2/2012, £115 NLHE, The International, 86 runners, 48th, £0, Rating 8/10.

103. 24/2/2012 £275 PLO UK Omaha Series, Grosvenor Victoria Casino, London, 71 Runners 14th £0 (Rating 9/10)

104. 26/2/2012 £550 PLO UK Omaha Series, Grosvenor Victoria Casino, London, 54 Runners 26th £0 (Rating 7/10)

105. 15/3/2012 £680 NLHE Cash Race Final (see notes), The International, 89 Runners 15th £600 (Rating 9/10) (Bubbled)

106. 28/3/2012 £430 NLHE Genting Poker Series, Fox Club, London, The International, 580 Runners 155th £0 (Rating 8.5/10)

107. 25/5/2014 £275 UKIPT PLO, Hippodrome Casino, London, 72 Runners 5th £1360 (Final Table) (Rating 9.5/10)

108. 23/5/2014 £75 Satellite to £275 UKIPT PLO (1 + 1R or AO, two seats added), Hippodrome Casino, London, 11 Runners Finished Joint 1st to 5th £275 (Final Table) (Rating 10/10) (Played this Satellite after I had already bought in for and played Day 1a and made it to day 2) I took the £275 cash prize because I was already in the main comp.

109. 13/10/2014 £330 EPT London PLO Double Chance, Connaught Rooms, London, 85 Runners 5th £1925 (Final Table) (Rating 9.5/10)

110. 18/10/2014 £330 EPT London PLO8 Deep stack Turbo, Connaught Rooms, London, 39 Runners 2nd £2660 (Final Table) (Rating 10/10)

111. 25/1/15 £200 + £20 UKIPT PLO, Hippodrome Casino, London, 50 Runners 12th (£0) (Rating 9.7/10)

112. 30/1/15 €500 + €50 PLO Turbo, EPT Deauville, 166 runners 44th (€0) (Rating 10/10)

113. 1/2/15 €1000 + €100 PLO Turbo, EPT Deauville, 72 runners 29th (€0) (Rating 8.5/10)

114. 1/2/15 €200 + €20 NLHE Mens Event, EPT Deauville, 284 runners 266th (€0) (Rating 3.5/10)

115. 3/2/15 €1000 + €100 PLO , EPT Deauville, 68 runners 6th (€4140) (Rating 8.8/10)

116. 5/2/15 €300 + €30 PLO Turbo , EPT Deauville, 67 runners 3rd (€2690) (Rating 10/10)


Notes:
*** I multi tabled Tournaments 73 & 74 but because I went deep in the PLO and because of the layout of the room I was only able to see two hands in the NLHE event in the first 10 levels. When busting the PLO I joined the NLHE having been blinded down to only 4500 chips of my original 9500 starting stack (1/4 of the average) but managed to get up to 57000 before busting.

Tournaments 2, 7 and 105 were freerolls qualified for by playing many hours of PLO cash games at The International. I have adjusted the entry fees to reflect the number of extra £1 voluntary contributions that I made to pots whilst playing PLO and Dealers Choice cash games. The £1 contributions (for pots over £25) was one of the conditions of the cash race freeroll promotion.

August 2011 GSOP Festival Notes:
I played attrociously in 3 comps (One £60 satellite and two £100 GSOPS) but well and extremely well in 3 comps (Another £60 satellite and the £200 and £500 GSOPs). However, I ran badly in the 3 that I played well in. I was a 58/42 favourite to be chip leader going into day two of the £500. Also got unlucky and busted with QQ < A8 AIP (having pwned my opponent pre by tricking him) just before the end of day 1 of the £200. So whilst the bare results look poor I was a real contender in the two biggest comps of the festival.

ROI Notes:
All ROIs quoted take into account the total entry fee costs including juice and fees for bonus chips.

Exchange Rate Notes:
€ to £ rate used in my career stats for events 93 to 101 is €1.20 to £1 because it was the exchange rate at the time.

Exchange Rate Notes:
€ to £ rate used in my career stats for events 111 to 116 is €1.26 to £1 because it was the exchange rate at the time.

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02-09-2015 , 09:27 AM
I have this as a new offer I've just put up for 5 PLO and PLO8 bracelet events at WSOP.
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02-10-2015 , 11:34 PM
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Payments Update

Private Investor 4.705% (PH) £282.49 (Paid)
Giovanni44 14.115% $1330.52 (Paid)
U shove i call 2.823% £169.50 (Paid)
Another Private Investor 9.41% (JJ) £564.99 (Paid)
Cerebral 0.941% $88.70 (awaiting confirmation of PP details)
BatPoker 0.941% $88.70 (awaiting confirmation of PP details)
My NLHE Deep Stack Coach 3% £180.12 (Paid)

(As per the original terms of the offer, I have landed funds in each of the investor's accounts in their source currency without them incurring any charges or exchange rate fees.)
Forgot to update that everyone paid. Cerebral and BatPoker were paid shortly after the post above was made.
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