Jason got ahold of me and explained his situation. Doesn't look like there's any harm in giving him a bit more time to get some $ together.

Hopefully everyone gets paid soon. Keep us posted.

Wow some naive people posting ITT......considering the guys background he has less than zero credibility...how could you believe anything he tells you?...this guy will not pay back dollar one....notwithstanding that the guy is obv busto if he sat in CCDC for a week in lieu of bail...

If someone would have just posted pictures of him sooner, then we woulda known he was a scammer, by his appearance.

On a serious note though this really sucks. He's been around 2+2 forever, and everything I ever read from him was helpful or informative. He also came across to me as someone who was known and respected IRL by the community. Scary because I would've done this deal with him without thinking twice.

Have to agree with you there..... that's how scammers gain people's confidence hence the term 'con man'....

What would he be gaining by leading us on like this, unless that's what gets his jollies off. We don't know where he is, it's not like we could form a posse if he wasn't responding. If he doesn't pay within the next few weeks people are going to end up going to the cops to deal with it, it doesn't seem like he has any incentive to lead us on without paying. He has been the one to get in contact multiple times to a few of the people involved. IMO he'll pay, but this situation has been handled terribly and, at least for me, stopped being about the money a while ago.

Well he's been proven to be a pathological liar, so....

I hope everyone involved at least gets partial restitution....short of him actually putting the money in your hand, I would not give any weight to anything else he says or does......I loaned an ex-friend 5k once and when it came time to pay it was a bunch of phone calls, stories and songs and dances but in the end no pay....which is the typical deadbeat MO....

Jason, I know you look at this thread and now that you don't have a way for us to readily get updates from you, I believe you should post here with updates and set us a bit more at ease. I know you feel you haven't been treated fairly and have done everything you can to right this situation, but the main problem has boiled down to a lack of effective communication, and this thread is the best way to keep everyone involved updated and on the same page.

I feel bad for Jason. I am pretty sure a thread like this is his worst nightmare as he was active in the marketplace, a leader and welcoming guide in Las Vegas Lifestyle, and has been a true professional poker player since I met him in 2004 or 05. The most dishonest thing I've ever even heard him do was bonus whore party poker back when he was starting out.

I don't think he is busto, but if this house deal he was more than he could chew and wiped out what liquid he has, and now his accounts are locked by a fraud department, well this is going to take time to sort out.

I really don't know what his deal is right now, but he had a pretty good reputation for a pretty long time. When I was on tough times earlier this year he offered me a place to stay while he was filling the rooms. I left on April 15th or so and everything seemed to go downhill since then. But I kind of cringe reading a lot of these posts, personal attacks and such, that are buffered when Jason gets a chance to speak. He is a sincere, decent and has always been more than honest.

Perhaps taking a look at the average time it takes to sort out a fraud complaint with Stars and Tilt will give an idea on how long it might take to pay everyone.

Of course I think he should answer your calls and keep everyone updated, and I am not sure if he is banned or if he could post updates in this thread for everyone.

I thought I read somewhere that as part of his probation or whatever that he would have to get a IRL job. He's a smart guy and he will make some cash eventually IRL.

Would having him sign a promissory note be a way to set things at ease?

I would not blame Jason for being less than honest about his exact location while threats of "get a posse together" etc are being thrown around in this thread. Who knows whats being said on the phone.

Jason is a stand up guy IMHO, he's always been good to me personally. It seems that when he speaks to people he is believable, sincere, upfront and honest. I have spoke to him once in the past month and I didn't prod him too much into this subject of the truth here. Its none of my business and I would help the guy out if I could. This post is about the best I can do for him.

And If Jason sees this. Jason, make these dudes whole ASAP and don't be a douche giving people more reason to be upset. (ie, answer your phone, make arrangements and add in additional time for the drama thats all around you right now. Like if you think a week, say 10 days to be sure you can make it and even make it early if nothing silly happens.)

Meh, sucks to hear, I look forward to the day you guys are all repaid, and Jason's name is clear.

PC

Jason and I spoke and I have to apologize for some of the things I've said ITT, I wasn't aware 2+2 had banned him and he was unable to answer my questions or concerns here. I see now how my comments came off looking like they weren't really aimed at him but rather at rabble rousing, and for that I'm sorry.

This has probably been mentioned before somewhere in the 10 pages, but you definitely have enough to sue him in small claims court to recuperate most of the lost funds.

shhhh some of us are still hoping for a happy ending

good read

and suing in smalls claim wouldn't recuperate the funds, it would simply produce a ruling that this guy owes(or doesn't owe) any money. That's the biggest misconception people have about small claims court is that they think if you take someone to it, you get paid. you don't. you just get a ruling, and if they don't pay after that, there isn't really much you can do if they are in fact busto.

Well you'd need to take the judgement to an enforcement officer to collect the funds. An enforcement officer could sieze his bank accounts, wages, real estate, automobiles, stocks, and bonds.

If he's busto now you can always collect later when he gets another job or whatever. If he's in fact busto then he's not going to willingly repay you anyways, so you might as well sue and hope to recover part of the funds in the future.



Sure, depending on his current assets, there's probably ways for him to avoid repaying a single cent. But the point is that you don't need to rely completely on his willingness to repay the funds, which is something that he will very likely never do unless he's given extra motivation to do so.

You might also be able to press for criminal prosecution for what he did here for closure.

Anyone been in touch with judge Judy?

senjitsu gfy

so i did 2 very small transfers with him

1 for a visa card and one on paypal and got the ftp money

am i fine legally?

no wonder this guy makes a living scamming people. how can you apologize to him? he is good enough at the internet to get around a 2p2 ban... wtf

No homeland security will arrest you and send you to Guantanamo asap. I would run to Canada if I were you.

How does me apologizing for talking about him without him being able to respond have anything to do with me trying to get my money back? I don't see how the two are related, and he obviously didn't make a gimmick account to talk in here because it would have instantly been banned and he probably would have been IP banned.

++11657849.....A small claims judgement against a deadbeat/scammer/felon like this guy is not worth the paper its printed on......Your wasting more money(and time) since if you sue the guy you have to pay the filing fee, and is all you will get is a worthless default judgement that you will never collect on, since someone like this never has bank accounts or tangible assets that could be attached by a judgement....

What a shocker that there has not been any updates of this guy making dollar one in restitution to the people he robbed.......

You might not get the money, but couldn't a bunch of small claims judgments lead to fraud charges which would violate his probation and send him to jail?

apparently has 1 month to refund us after the termination of the lease which would be the 7th of July. right now he is not breaking the law. talking about possible charges ect is pointless until that date, i think its best if we just give him the time he needs to get this sorted out.