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I was also 1 of the people that got scammed, I am still in the house but we are all getting evicted on monday, jake can u pm me or something about other houses u may have. The whole situation really sux, he signed the lease termination then got arrested about 3 hrs later, its almost like as if he knew he was going to jail and didnt wanna tell any1 that we were getting evicted.

Doesn't look like I can send you a PM.
Any chance you can get my number off one of the guys there? I talked to a couple people already. Jacob and Johathan both have my number, Issac too I think.

06-05-2010 , 09:35 PM

#52

ScoobyDooo

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,665

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jake

How is the 2m2k house treating you? Looking forward to having you back in July.

i think its renamed the one month one micro house, but its great everyones pretty awesome its a lot of fun. but i do miss the pooooool

06-05-2010 , 09:53 PM

#53

hoopaloopa

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,277

hey this is hoopystyles. I was one of the roommates that got scammed in the house. Klink you have nothing to worry about with the money.

06-05-2010 , 11:47 PM

#54

nimbus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8,598

Looks like Senjitsu's pokerstars account (pyre-alectos) is now locked.

06-06-2010 , 12:23 AM

#55

gtpitch

making sick bumps

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 33,706

It'd be nice if someone would compile a list of all the Stars and or FTP screennames he's used so that they can be forwarded to the poker sites.

06-06-2010 , 02:05 AM

#56

isaacicic

banned

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 791

I am also one of the guys that lived in the house. If anyone is still looking for a place, please PM for more info (include your phone number). I don't mean to hijack the thread. I just want to help.

06-06-2010 , 04:43 AM

#57

ubettercall

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 865

what a piece of ****, This guy could use an old fashion ass whoopin when he gets out.

06-06-2010 , 06:28 AM

#58

GrannyMae

Goon

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,004

Quote:

Originally Posted by augie_

holy ****, gingers strike again

very surprised he did this, seemed like a nice enough gent and always posted helpful stuff. guess he was building up scam equity

6/19/2009
EMAIL:

From: Granny
To: somedude

SUBJECT: Senjitsu

i actually really respect senjitsu. we exchange PM's now and then. however, i just saw this (thread entries) and wanted a confidential second opinion. read, then i will ask

Quote:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...thread-501206/

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

so theyre looking for the payer name on a transaction that never came?

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

when theyve rolled out deposit and or wd options in the past its been based on lifetime vpps, starting at like 250K i think and working back from there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

it looks like they lowered the threshold.... ehceck deposits, which had been previously unavailable to me, are available now (im not looking ot deposit, just checking)

had my roommate try (he has barely any play at all) and still unavailable to him so theyre definitely doing it incrementally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

im pretty sure its ppl with less than 1k lifetime vpps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by poker degen

how do you kno this ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

because i know a couple of ppl with very few vpps that cant deposit and know someone with just over 1k who can

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroBob

Awesome sample size on that one dude.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

yeah, but i know that in every other case where pokerstars has gradually introduced or reintriduced a method its been based on lifetime vpps. it could be lower than 1k... the next lowest person i know is like 200.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

the only people i know who dont have it back are people who never made a deposit (ie, the account was funded by a p3p xfer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

my roommate had the same situation you were talking about and successfully deposited like 10 mins ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

^^^
see what i did there?

ok, why is it that the first thing that comes to my mind is that this could mean he has several dummy accounts with different banking info and friend's names etc. the accounts would seemingly be low activity so they are probably more about moving money. i mean, who knows several people with specific minimum VPP's that he could email and ask to check if they can e-deposit? not me. also, senjitsu quit law school in his 3rd year to be a poker pro. i don't know if that makes it more likely, or less likely that he may be up to no good though.

is this hypothesis crazy? am i too paranoid?

these are obv. rhetorical questions that i would never pursuit or even hint at, but i think you are the best at reading between lines. am i completely bonkers for suspecting this??

Quote:

6/19/2009
From: somedude
To: GrannyMae

SUBJECT: Senjitsu

There are bound to be a few top-notch guys here who are the front-men for their scam industries. I found one once, but they don't often make mistakes. He showed off his unusual "winnings" with graphs, before he discovered that we can search for photobucket accounts. A known scammer or two also used the same photobucket account.

It is virtually impossible to tell who they are for us. The sites should be able to see where all the scammed money goes and follow lines that way. Whether they do or not, I have no idea. I hope they try.

There are so many small scams as well as the occasional big ones that I find it hard to believe that the few guys who do them are simply gambling degenerates. We're always told, oh the money's gone - lost to unknown other players. That just seems so weird to me.

[We] have two theories.

One is that they play properly in real ring games with another account of theirs and that other account picks up a genuine portion of winnings from the losing play of the stolen money - maybe only 20 cents in the dollar - but it's now good money.

The other is that they try to punt the money up to a significant amount with a few big bets before they chip-dump to one of their other accounts, probably, again, in a legitimate game.

But who knows really?

[WE] have no reason to suspect senjitsu; but nothing would surprise me. I certainly do suspect a few of our big names here, but only because their IP addresses keep crossing paths with scammers. Not from their posts.

The serial scammers are making serious amounts of money.

[We] often think of closing the transfer thread down, but then transfers will go underground and more will be scammed, imo. Thankfully, with the thread and its rules and tips, mainly only total dickheads get scammed by the obvious likely scammers. Anyone can go rogue at any time, and it's impossible to spot those ones.

Senjitsu seems to have lots of friends during this time period that are having cashout problems:

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

a friend of mine reports that theyre not letting him cashout by wire for more than 1K... hes filling his info and getting a popup that says 1K max.... anyone else having htis issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Six Finger Nate

This sounds like your friend has it backwards. I did a 5k wire yesterday, processed last night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

hes requesting 2k... getting a popup that says hes limited to 1K per wire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by senjitsu

ok i got it figured out... apparently theres a dead zone between 1k and 2500... if you request an amount greater than 1k but less than 2500 it tells you theres a maximum of 1K.

06-06-2010 , 10:49 AM

#59

Javisst

newbie

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 18

i think his scam is justified by his looks. poor man seriously .
i would rather have tom dwans ears and greg raymers penis in a beautiful mix in my face instead of that insane mashup

06-06-2010 , 01:03 PM

#60

txpstwx

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,239

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtpitch

It'd be nice if someone would compile a list of all the Stars and or FTP screennames he's used so that they can be forwarded to the poker sites.

I run out of searches on PTR and sharkscope while looking at all the different screen names.

The relationship between thl1mias sdobson68 sp8tra are pretty obvious but I can't find anything major that has happened recently. The account malletthume is probably involved but the amounts are small.

It looks to me like an echeck scam but the dumping is so obvious that I'm surprised the sites did catch it instantly.

06-06-2010 , 08:10 PM

#61

blingATL

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 446

Quote:

Originally Posted by phishman

wow what a ****ing piece of ****

06-07-2010 , 01:44 AM

#62

iluvcj2

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 158

what it sounds like is that he makes a living off the hole in pokerstars echecks

but regarding the house scam, my opinion is that he knew he was going to jail for awhile, so he stockpiled as much money as he could for when he gets out

kind of odd that he said i could move in starting june 8th

06-07-2010 , 08:32 AM

#63

Live Forever

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 296

i send him $1150 to move in after the WSOP

the sn was AEPpoker on stars

if anyone can help me with accomodation pm me, my flights are booked for the 19th of July and return on the 12th of sept

06-07-2010 , 12:22 PM

#64

Live Forever

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 296

spoke to his brother on facebook, he claims to have not spoken to him in months and wasnt able to provide any unknown info

06-07-2010 , 01:12 PM

#65

Javisst

newbie

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 18

Kinda off topic and i hope u all who got scammed find a resolution or smth, but seriously - when you moved to the house, did you know what he looked like?

06-07-2010 , 01:25 PM

#66

robhimself

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,769

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live Forever

spoke to his brother on facebook, he claims to have not spoken to him in months and wasnt able to provide any unknown info

From what I know of Jason (which is all secondhand knowledge), he isn't close to any of his family and has no real friends. A couple of the housemates are going to his hearing right now so hopefully we'll have updates soon. A further caveat to his screwing over of everyone now in the house was that 3 hours before he went to jail, the landlord came over and got him to sign the papers for us to get evicted. I didn't put a deposit down (Jason didn't ask me for one, which I still can't figure out as he asked everyone else for one to my knowledge), but I don't think the other guys are going to see money back from the deposit from the landlord, basically we are getting boned from all angles.

06-07-2010 , 03:12 PM

#67

knn05

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,646

I'm going to go ahead and document a transaction I completed with Senjitsu on PokerStars in case they investigate all who traded with him. I traded an amazon gift code for $200 with him via Stars on April 19,2010. Like many others, he seemed very reputable so I even shipped the GC first and he subsequently shipped me funds on Stars from the account pyre-alect0s. See threads below:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...zon-gc-764433/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=888

The transaction went smoothly, but I still want to document it.

06-07-2010 , 03:35 PM

#68

txpstwx

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,239

Quote:

Originally Posted by knn05

shipped me funds on Stars from the account pyre-alect0s.

That account is different and has more recent history than the one mentioned earlier (but no less shady).

06-07-2010 , 07:53 PM

#69

thebighit89

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 588

Wow this is so ******* sick I knew I recognized the name senjitsu from somewhere. I traded $200 worth of Prepaid GC's with him on 3/30/10 and I sent first. He seemed reputable and I couldn't find any negative feedback on him. The transaction went smoothly to say the least. His FT name I received from was sigma6million which is his AIM name I believe (or close to). It's just so sick knowing that I was on the receiving end of a scammer's money.

Here's the link to the transaction we had: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15.../#post17839245

06-07-2010 , 08:11 PM

#70

ItsOnlyChips

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,230

Quote:

Originally Posted by txpstwx

That account is different and has more recent history than the one mentioned earlier (but no less shady).

Yikes, those graphs look so shady

06-07-2010 , 08:50 PM

#71

maxballa

banned

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 44

what happened at his hearing?, ppl showed up i read

06-07-2010 , 09:18 PM

#72

sdeep27

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 170

crazy ****. What was he arrested for? Was it this particular scam or something unrelated?

06-07-2010 , 09:24 PM

#73

n1232

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 548

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkey_king

On February 15th I sent $1.5k to twelver1232. Jason claimed it was a friend's account that he owed money to.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...ch/twelver1232
As you can see twelver1232 is a small stakes nlhe breakeven player over
500k hands with rakeback. Not sure what to make of this.

I had not read this thread until now. I did not know Jason by his online name, as I had never talked to him online. Jason took over our lease in late January. Part of the terms for him taking over the lease was to give us our security deposit (approx $5.8K) back. He had 2+2er donkey_king send me 1.5k claiming he was one of the roomates moving in and he was sending me part of the security deposit. I never had any reason to question it.

06-08-2010 , 01:39 AM

#74

Kovner

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 646

****. I hope when I meet people in Vegas, they don't get me confused with this guy. I don't look anything like this guy, for the record.

IM NOT A SCAMMER!