agree. Im catching some serious nits folding Ax on Ax flops, on the turn in 3bet pots when in the past they would stack off with 2nd pair. disgusting.

haven't really seen that many nits, mostly just regs. e.g. the pool had a faze where nobody was opening 2.5x because they didn't want to seem like a reg and in the last few weeks there are a bunch of new guys opening 2.5x. if indeed an illegal stable is playing on the site i also have no doubt they are sharing cards since some of the hands i've played are just beyond description. this is ontop of the fact that the 50bb stack/bots/things are definitely doing something sus/sharing cards

50bb stacks basically just destroy me all the time, either cooler or just bad beats no matter what they get in the pot with. definitely some dodgy things going on in the pool.

yeah their 50bb strat is also horrible... they make ******ed calls without the correct odds in spots that only make sense if u card share or something else. i literally lose every pot against them, it doesn't matter how much equity i have. it's a meme between me and a few others 50bb s tacks never lose

and limp callers as well, they haven't missed a flop vs me since 2017. they just keep calling and own while i have complete air.

can anyone else attest to the level of the 200z pool lately? it feels very reg infested at all times...

I have not played a ton of 200z lately, However to add more about 50bb players there just something very sketchy going, like them flatting 3bets constantly with AA & KK and other very funny ****, I noticed this awhile back and now it just seems like there is more and more of them.

the flatting AA/KK is probably fine as a strategy with that low of an SPR. it's the **** they do that is so far from a +ev 50bb strat that even someone like me who hasn't studied it at all can see that. one of them just called my 4bet with q10s and hit trips. it's a funny feeling when no matter what you have you know they will win the hand somehow. the spot doesn't matter. they always win.

Ya exactly, it just doesn't matter what cards you have, you are going to lose regardless... That is super tilt inducing.

yeah people underestimate how much bots can win when they share cards with eachother

interesting/misplayed hands from last month:

1) if he has AK in range then this can't be good

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 229.8 BB
CO: 118 BB
BTN: 58.84 BB
Hero (SB): 179.8 BB
BB: 99.72 BB
UTG: 108.13 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, fold, MP calls 10 BB

Flop: (26 BB, 2 players) K 6 9
Hero bets 14 BB, MP calls 14 BB

Turn: (54 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 37 BB, MP calls 37 BB

River: (128 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 116.3 BB and is all-in, MP calls 116.3 BB

MP shows A K (Full House, Kings full of Sixes)

CO shows 5 3 (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)

BTN shows J 4 (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)

BB shows Q 2 (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)

UTG shows Q 2 (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)

MP wins 358.6 BB

2) does he ever show worse here?

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 99.5 BB
MP: 111.58 BB
CO: 98 BB
BTN: 102.5 BB
SB: 98.15 BB
BB: 100.23 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 7.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4.4 BB

Flop: (15.8 BB, 2 players) 5 3 5
SB bets 7.81 BB, Hero calls 7.81 BB

Turn: (31.41 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 22.71 BB, SB raises to 50.43 BB, Hero raises to 84.3 BB and is all-in, SB calls 32.52 BB and is all-in

River: (197.3 BB, 2 players) 7

MP shows T Q (Two Pair, Fives and Threes)

CO shows 6 T (Two Pair, Fives and Threes)

BTN shows 4 6 (Straight, Seven High)

SB shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)

BB shows 9 4 (Two Pair, Fives and Threes)

SB wins 195.3 BB

3) h4h4

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 156.7 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 84.75 BB
CO: 205.11 BB
BTN: 106.1 BB
SB: 123.29 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 8

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) 9 4 6
Hero checks, UTG bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, UTG calls 4 BB

Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 11.25 BB, UTG raises to 26.13 BB, Hero calls 14.88 BB

River: (64.75 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, UTG bets 32.38 BB, Hero raises to 124.58 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 35.5 BB and is all-in

UTG shows 4 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours)

MP shows K 5 (High Card, King)

CO shows Q 6 (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes)

BTN shows 7 J (One Pair, Sevens)

SB shows A 2 (High Card, Ace)

Hero wins 198.5 BB

4) ?

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 83.75 BB
Hero (BTN): 102.55 BB
SB: 132.15 BB
BB: 108.17 BB
UTG: 99.5 BB
MP: 109.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4 A K
BB checks, Hero bets 2.25 BB, BB raises to 9.25 BB, Hero raises to 27.25 BB, BB calls 18 BB

Turn: (61 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets 72.3 BB and is all-in, fold

CO shows 8 9 (High Card, Ace)

SB shows Q 7 (High Card, Ace)

BB shows 4 3 (One Pair, Fours)

UTG shows A 5 (One Pair, Aces)

MP shows 9 4 (One Pair, Fours)

Hero wins 59 BB

5) probably too thin

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 101.73 BB
Hero (BB): 118.7 BB
UTG: 103.64 BB
MP: 194.76 BB
CO: 78.38 BB
BTN: 37.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 2 Q Q
SB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Turn: (30 BB, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets 15 BB, SB calls 15 BB

River: (60 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 88.7 BB and is all-in, SB calls 71.73 BB and is all-in

SB shows A Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)

UTG shows J 7 (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)

MP shows 9 3 (One Pair, Queens)

CO shows K 3 (One Pair, Queens)

BTN shows 3 4 (Two Pair, Queens and Fours)

SB wins 201.45 BB

6) we have no value hands that jam here... but i feel like x/folding turn is awful

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 118.85 BB
CO: 253.07 BB
BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 102.13 BB
BB: 315.49 BB
UTG: 581.58 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 5

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, CO raises to 30 BB, fold, Hero calls 16 BB

Flop: (64 BB, 2 players) 7 A 4
Hero checks, CO bets 14 BB, Hero raises to 72.13 BB and is all-in, CO calls 58.13 BB

Turn: (208.25 BB, 2 players) A

River: (208.25 BB, 2 players) Q

MP shows Q 6 (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)

CO shows Q A (Full House, Aces full of Queens)

BTN shows 7 5 (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)

BB shows 2 J (One Pair, Aces)

UTG shows T 6 (One Pair, Aces)

CO wins 206.25 BB

7)

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 189.75 BB
MP: 104.89 BB
CO: 159.8 BB
BTN: 160.55 BB
SB: 32.75 BB
Hero (BB): 150.65 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 24.5 BB, CO calls 22 BB, fold

Flop: (57.5 BB, 2 players) 9 J 2
Hero bets 14.5 BB, CO calls 14.5 BB

Turn: (86.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (86.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 111.65 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG shows 7 K (Flush, Jack High)

MP shows 7 T (High Card, Jack)

CO shows K A (High Card, Ace)

BTN shows A 5 (Flush, Ace High)

SB shows 9 2 (Two Pair, Nines and Twos)

Hero wins 84.5 BB

8) i want to just fold these spots every time...

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 101.5 BB
MP: 101.38 BB
CO: 138.14 BB
Hero (BTN): 144.98 BB
SB: 81.43 BB
BB: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO raises to 10.5 BB, Hero raises to 22.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 12 BB

Flop: (49.5 BB, 2 players) 4 2 T
CO checks, Hero bets 16.5 BB, CO calls 16.5 BB

Turn: (82.5 BB, 2 players) 9
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (82.5 BB, 2 players) 7
CO bets 82.5 BB, Hero calls 82.5 BB

UTG shows 9 7 (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens)

MP shows 7 6 (One Pair, Sevens)

CO shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens)

SB shows 5 9 (One Pair, Nines)

BB shows 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos)

CO wins 245.5 BB

9) don't even think jamming turn is +ev

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 49 BB
CO: 59.78 BB
BTN: 49.5 BB
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 134.59 BB
UTG: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 J

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 3 6 2
Hero checks, BB bets 11 BB, Hero raises to 28 BB, BB calls 17 BB

Turn: (74 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 63.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 63.5 BB

River: (201 BB, 2 players) A

MP shows 4 8 (Straight, Six High)

CO shows A 8 (One Pair, Aces)

BTN shows 6 9 (One Pair, Sixes)

BB shows K K (One Pair, Kings)

UTG shows J T (High Card, Ace)

BB wins 199 BB

10) Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 60.75 BB
Hero (SB): 227.46 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 201.49 BB
MP: 262.2 BB
CO: 56.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, MP calls 11 BB

Flop: (29 BB, 2 players) 3 9 A
Hero checks, MP bets 14.5 BB, Hero calls 14.5 BB

Turn: (58 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, MP bets 31 BB, Hero raises to 95.5 BB, fold

BTN shows 2 5 (High Card, Ace)

BB shows 8 A (One Pair, Aces)

UTG shows 4 Q (High Card, Ace)

MP shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)

CO shows Q 7 (High Card, Ace)

Hero wins 118 BB

11) when u have a feeling nah jks its prob still a jam

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 41.25 BB
SB: 106.13 BB
BB: 121.63 BB
UTG: 98 BB
Hero (MP): 445.84 BB
CO: 188.45 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO raises to 9.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) J A 7
Hero checks, CO bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets 18.25 BB, Hero calls 18.25 BB

River: (69 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 56 BB, Hero calls 56 BB

BTN shows 4 9 (One Pair, Nines)

SB shows T K (High Card, Ace)

BB shows K Q (High Card, Ace)

UTG shows 2 6 (High Card, Ace)

CO shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)

CO wins 179 BB

12) too thin?

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 354.33 BB
CO: 98.5 BB
BTN: 115.63 BB
Hero (SB): 168.83 BB
BB: 93 BB
UTG: 32.23 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG raises to 2 BB, MP raises to 9.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 24 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 14.5 BB

Flop: (51 BB, 2 players) 2 9 3
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (51 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 37.5 BB, MP calls 37.5 BB

River: (126 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 107.33 BB and is all-in, MP calls 107.33 BB

MP shows 9 9 (Full House, Nines full of Eights)

CO shows 4 5 (One Pair, Eights)

BTN shows 4 6 (One Pair, Eights)

BB shows 9 A (Two Pair, Nines and Eights)

UTG shows T K (One Pair, Eights)

MP wins 338.65 BB

gl in october skuz!

good start to october. i've been slacking with everything though so hopefully i can pick it back up. whales have been running very good against me but thankfully there has been a steady supply of trash regs to increase the bankroll. can't really complain since a month ago this time i was a few buy ins from busto and now we're sitting comfortably.

1) thx for being so bad that you don't stack me

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 104.48 BB
MP: 104.15 BB
CO: 114.68 BB
BTN: 336.52 BB
SB: 90 BB
Hero (BB): 108.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 4

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8 Q 3
Hero checks, MP bets 2.05 BB, Hero raises to 10.1 BB, MP calls 8.05 BB

Turn: (26.7 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 20.35 BB, MP raises to 91.05 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG shows 2 3 (One Pair, Threes)

MP shows A 9 (Flush, Ace High)

CO shows 4 2 (High Card, Queen)

BTN shows J 7 (High Card, Queen)

SB shows 5 8 (One Pair, Eights)

MP wins 65.4 BB

2) xD

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 57.4 BB
Hero (BB): 113.63 BB
UTG: 105 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 48 BB
BTN: 283.51 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) Q 6 3
Hero checks, MP bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, MP calls 8 BB

Turn: (30.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 21.25 BB, MP calls 21.25 BB

River: (73 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 77.38 BB and is all-in, MP calls 63.75 BB and is all-in

SB shows A 6 (One Pair, Sixes)

UTG shows A T (High Card, Ace)

MP shows 3 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Threes)

CO shows 4 J (High Card, Queen)

BTN shows 5 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Fives)

MP wins 198.5 BB

3) sneaky sneaky

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 819.22 BB
MP: 153.2 BB
Hero (CO): 130.1 BB
BTN: 238.12 BB
SB: 325.28 BB
BB: 248.38 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 2 K 2
SB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (27 BB, 2 players) 9
SB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (47 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 47 BB, Hero raises to 107.1 BB and is all-in, SB calls 60.1 BB

UTG shows 4 6 (One Pair, Twos)

MP shows J 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Twos)

BTN shows 8 J (Two Pair, Eights and Twos)

SB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Twos)

BB shows 4 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Twos)

Hero wins 259.2 BB

4)

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 126.49 BB
BB: 146.03 BB
UTG: 485.94 BB
MP: 333.09 BB
CO: 200.81 BB
BTN: 99.41 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 2

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 4 2 T
Hero checks, BB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (42 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (42 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BB bets 28 BB, Hero raises to 105.49 BB and is all-in, BB calls 77.49 BB

BB shows K Q (One Pair, Queens)

UTG shows 9 7 (High Card, Queen)

MP shows 9 Q (One Pair, Queens)

CO shows T 3 (One Pair, Tens)

BTN shows A 5 (High Card, Ace)

Hero wins 250.97 BB

5) thankyou

Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 229.96 BB
BTN: 48.5 BB
SB: 135.52 BB
Hero (BB): 103.53 BB
UTG: 102.7 BB
MP: 81.57 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 7 K A
SB bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

Turn: (54 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 27 BB, SB calls 27 BB

River: (108 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 49.53 BB and is all-in, SB calls 49.53 BB

CO shows 7 9 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)

BTN shows 7 4 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)

SB shows J 7 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)

UTG shows 3 3 (Two Pair, Tens and Threes)

MP shows 3 4 (One Pair, Tens)

Hero wins 205.05 BB

going to try and kick up the volume and study this week to 6 hours and 3 hours per day respectively

also will update thread again at end of month. if i fail to hit 50k hands for october i will donate $100 to charity. probably hope4paws because i like their yt videos. gl all

Good luck on the rest of month, hopefully run good will continue on.

Keep pushin' pedal to the medal in October Baannii ! Looks like youre on the right rack.

How do you think the pool has been this past week? Do you think you have just been running better or pool is not as nitty as it was previous month?

pool has been really bad for a while now. i'm playing much better though and not running 5k below ev per month so that makes up for it. the reg:whale ratio keeps increasing and getting worse. feels very unnatural and i have no doubt that there's an influx of illegal players polluting the pool. what can you do though but keep improving

also fwiw nitty pools are very easy to run over. pool isn't necessarily 'nitty' right now. it's moreso the average player is much better than before

This is how people start talking after a 30k hand heater............

the problem was the bad players a couple months back were so easy that i had to donate a couple dozen buy ins every now and then to keep the ecosystem good

now the players are better so i don't have that responsibility anymore

Spoken like a true hero

Fixed your post.

i only started complaining once i was winning. if ur gonna be a loser and troll a dead website try to at least be good at it

Ooh please. You always complain you garbage can with eyes. Just funny to see the shift in attitude after a 30k hand heater.

about bots/pool? no

about running bad? yes

if u ran as bad as i did in my last 100k hands u would sell your kidneys on the black market to fund ur 5nl roll

what stakes do u play btw? just curious. ive got sub 200k hands online and im already 3-4 times better than u?