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THE RETURN!! NL__FOOL (HghSsociety) IS BACK! Lets crush 200 Zone on Ignition THE RETURN!! NL__FOOL (HghSsociety) IS BACK! Lets crush 200 Zone on Ignition

04-12-2018 , 01:31 AM
Hey everyone!

What you will see in this thread

-200 Bovada Zone
-Updates at the end of each day if I play
-Me spewing money around because I have an ego when it comes to poker(yes I can admit it) and I want to see if I still have what it takes to win 4 years later. (Probably not and I will most likely crash and burn so grab the popcorn!)
-Random Hand Histories that may or may not be so interesting
-Lots of mistakes because a) I'm rusty and B) my game is 4 years old and after browsing some forums and and talking to some old contacts that are still playing today there have been some changes made in postflop play that 4 years ago would have instantly had me tag you as a fish
-Random streaming on twitch of me playing just to keep me motivated to play
-Random musings on how different the game is today compared to 4 years ago when I left

What you will not see in this thread

-Massive volume
-Crushing winrate (Hope this one is wrong)
-Losing winrate (Hope this one is right)
-Naked girls ( I hope this one is wrong also)

About me!

-Screen names Stars (HghSsociety) FullTilt Poker (JaniceB)
-Played up to 1kn
-Former 2+2 account was NL__fool. Can't remember the pw and I don't have access to the email anymore, currently hoping a mod can help me out.
-Former online professional poker player for 10 years and left poker for personal reasons while still winning at a good clip
-Best month ever was 40k about 1 month before black Friday playing Rush on Full Tilt. (Maybe it doesn't mean much anymore because games were easier back then but still my best poker achievement)
-Gonna grind on the side part time to see if I still have it. This is not about money, it's about seeing if I still have it. Chose Bovada because games are softer than Stars and Stars got rid off rakeback????
-played maybe 10k hands in the past 4 years
-Going to aim for 1-2k hands per day

Results so Far




Hand #1

-Don't like my sizing
-In anon games, as nitty as it sounds, I'm thinking this can probably be a fold. He doesn't know if I'm a reg or a whale and I don't know if he's a reg or a whale so his shove is only value if he's sane and I have blockers to KK and AK. prob never folding this on Stars at 400+
    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $183.90 (92 bb)
    SB: $224.89 (112.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): $213.60 (106.8 bb)
    UTG: $182.35 (91.2 bb)
    MP: $321.44 (160.7 bb)
    CO: $172.98 (86.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
    UTG raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN raises to $20, SB folds, Hero raises to $53, UTG folds, BTN raises to $183.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $130.90

    Flop: ($374.80) Q 3 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($374.80) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($374.80) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $374.80 pot ($4 rake)
    Final Board: Q 3 7 5 2
    BTN showed A A and won $370.80 ($186.90 net)
    SB mucked Q 7 and lost (-$1 net)
    Hero showed K K and lost (-$183.90 net)
    UTG mucked T T and lost (-$6 net)
    MP mucked 4 2 and lostCO mucked 5 7 and lost

    Last edited by HghSsociety; 04-12-2018 at 01:42 AM.
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    04-12-2018 , 06:19 AM
    Gl man!

    Keen to see the twitch stream. Link so we can all see.

    Quote:
    In anon games, as nitty as it sounds, I'm thinking this can probably be a fold.
    I don't like telling people how to play but....... never ever ever ever ever ever ever fold KK pre 100bb deep 6max cash (unless there are like 3 all ins in front of you) particularly once you have 1/4 of your stack in.
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    04-12-2018 , 06:35 AM
    never fold kings....even when they show you the aces...
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    04-12-2018 , 07:22 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Brokenstars
    gl bro
    Thanks

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by skuzlad
    Gl man!

    Keen to see the twitch stream. Link so we can all see.



    I don't like telling people how to play but....... never ever ever ever ever ever ever fold KK pre 100bb deep 6max cash (unless there are like 3 all ins in front of you) particularly once you have 1/4 of your stack in.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
    never fold kings....even when they show you the aces...
    I realize the comment of folding KK would make people go "HUH? WTF is this guy thinking?" because even against a range of KK+ & AK It's a huge mistake but I was thinking this is one of those terribly exploitable plays that would appear to be absolutely horrendous to even consider but that I may need to consider them on the anon tables? It may appear to be results orientated but it's more a function of overcompensating and overthinking my play for the tables because they are anon. This is basically never a fold on regular tables

    I mean I'm definitely going to be changing my play style somewhat to compensate for the fact that everyone is an unknown but perhaps I am considering over adjusting to far if that makes any sense?
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    04-12-2018 , 09:05 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HghSsociety
    I mean I'm definitely going to be changing my play style somewhat to compensate for the fact that everyone is an unknown but perhaps I am considering over adjusting to far if that makes any sense?
    This would definitely be too much of an over adjust. Take this from someone who has changed their strategy a lot and is still telling you to never fold KK pre in pool.
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    04-13-2018 , 08:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by skuzlad
    This would definitely be too much of an over adjust. Take this from someone who has changed their strategy a lot and is still telling you to never fold KK pre in pool.
    Perfect thanks! I figured I would be over and under adjusting until I found the right balance. I was always a stat junkie and had extremely in depth huds
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    04-13-2018 , 08:32 PM
    Nothing much to report except I played another 1k hands. I keep reading about how some of you guys are getting over 400 hands per hour in the zone games 2 tabling but I'm not getting anywhere close to that. I'm probably averaging about 330k hands/hour and I'm not exactly slow either.

    Running a bit under EV




    Going to get this twitch thing going today or tomorrow. I'll play for a bit and take a break and try and figure it out in between sessions.

    It's also nice (I think?) to see that some things never change. The biggest sign that I was tilting back when I was playing for a living was calling 4 bets OOP with hands I shouldn't be, and I caught myself doing that last night. Immediately sat out and took a break when I saw myself doing it.

    These 3 hands with in about 2 minutes of each other caused me to start to tilt.

    Hand #1

    Regardless of the outcome, over adjusting vs the anon player pool? Assuming everyone is a fish because it's Bovada and they are gonna stack off light?

      Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      UTG: $242.94 (121.5 bb)
      Hero (MP): $229.48 (114.7 bb)
      CO: $181.80 (90.9 bb)
      BTN: $219.80 (109.9 bb)
      SB: $430.63 (215.3 bb)
      BB: $205.05 (102.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with 2 2
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, SB raises to $21, BB folds, Hero calls $16

      Flop: ($44) 4 2 5 (2 players)
      SB bets $22, Hero raises to $62, SB calls $40

      Turn: ($168) J (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $146.48 and is all-in, SB calls $146.48

      River: ($460.96) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $460.96 pot ($4.00 rake)
      Final Board: 4 2 5 J 3
      UTG mucked 9 2 and lostHero showed 2 2 and lost (-$229.48 net)
      CO mucked K T and lostBTN mucked 7 Q and lostSB showed A A and won $456.96 ($227.48 net)
      BB mucked 4 Q and lost (-$2 net)


      Hand #2

      Nice River I donked the turn hoping to get him to spazz bluff, and he did

        Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (BB): $203 (101.5 bb)
        UTG: $188.13 (94.1 bb)
        MP: $644.63 (322.3 bb)
        CO: $654.21 (327.1 bb)
        BTN: $941.65 (470.8 bb)
        SB: $451.30 (225.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
        3 folds, BTN raises to $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $24, BTN calls $18

        Flop: ($49) T 8 8 (2 players)
        Hero bets $15, BTN raises to $47, Hero calls $32

        Turn: ($143) 4 (2 players)
        Hero bets $41.55, BTN raises to $743.29, Hero calls $90.45 and is all-in

        River: ($407) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $407 pot ($4 rake)
        Final Board: T 8 8 4 6
        Hero showed K K and lost (-$203 net)
        UTG mucked 7 A and lostMP mucked 8 3 and lostCO mucked 4 3 and lostBTN showed 6 6 and won $403 ($200 net)
        SB mucked 9 Q and lost (-$1 net)


        Hand #3

        I'm getting attacked on a board where my range is stronger than his but if I fold this I'm super exploitable. From a GTO perspective I have to call here a certain % of the time so I call and get the worst possible turn card. Fish ovebet jams Turn and I snap thinking my hand is good because there is no need to jam turn here with anything strong

          Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
          UTG: $1,093.15 (546.6 bb)
          MP: $98 (49 bb)
          CO: $355.64 (177.8 bb)
          BTN: $643.63 (321.8 bb)
          SB: $279.09 (139.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with A T
          2 folds, CO calls $2, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $10, SB folds

          Flop: ($26) 9 8 A (2 players)
          Hero bets $13, CO raises to $26, Hero calls $13

          Turn: ($78) A (2 players)
          Hero checks, CO bets $171.53, Hero calls $162 and is all-in

          River: ($402) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $402 pot ($4 rake)
          Final Board: 9 8 A A 4
          Hero showed A T and lost (-$200 net)
          UTG mucked J 6 and lostMP mucked 2 9 and lostCO showed A Q and won $398 ($198 net)
          BTN mucked T 5 and lostSB mucked K 9 and lost (-$2 net)


          GL everyone!

          Last edited by HghSsociety; 04-13-2018 at 08:41 PM.
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          04-14-2018 , 02:02 AM
          Only managed to play for an hour today. I won about $150, will update once I get the HH downloaded

          OK.... So apparently I just discovered something new (to me anyway)
          I can play zone on my Ipad. This is fantastic news and maybe makes me a life fish?? lol

          It means I can get more hands in. Due to the nature of my business I currently work 6 months of the year and take 6 months off but in those 6 months that I am working I am putting in 80-90 hour weeks.

          It basically means that in my downtime at work my staff can take over and I can go sit in my office and play poker.

          Perhaps I might get some decent volume in after all. Is there anyway to play 2 zone tables on the Ipad at once or is it just restricted to one? Any idea of how much data it uses? I might have to upgrade my data plan
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          04-14-2018 , 06:26 AM
          I believe it's just one. I don't think the data is too high. I use to do this on my phone at work when I was working night shift.
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