H1: vs special person haha. OTT it's already quite bad and I don't think villain will valuebet AQ there, I was between x/f or bet turn and jam river, because he was a passive station. But thought that there were tons of rivers where I couldn't get enough value, and that it would be quite thin, meh. x/c is the play ofc vs competent people
So, let me get this straight. You were torn between the 2 worst options and did not even consider the best option of betting turn, and xf river? lawl.
H4. This is probably the only hand I have ever seen you play well. Usually you do something stupid like xj turn, Although even when you post a decent hand there was still some comedy. You labelled villain a 'tight reg' yet he called a 3bet with JTo, floated you with air, and then bluffed off his stack. Those reads lawl.
So, let me get this straight. You were torn between the 2 worst options and did not even consider the best option of betting turn, and xf river? lawl.
H4. This is probably the only hand I have ever seen you play well. Usually you do something stupid like xj turn, Although even when you post a decent hand there was still some comedy. You labelled villain a 'tight reg' yet he called a 3bet with JTo, floated you with air, and then bluffed off his stack. Those reads lawl.
is 20/17 loose? lol
I had a lot of hands on him, so he is a reg. A tight reg
People tilt and do stupid **** all the time, even nits haha
People tilt and do stupid **** all the time, even nits haha
It's pretty funny how you fight to the death with people on here about this awesome read you have of someone being a nit when you make a big fold but by your own admission, "nits do stupid **** all the time". Only when it fits whatever narrative you wanna sell.
It's pretty funny how you fight to the death with people on here about this awesome read you have of someone being a nit when you make a big fold but by your own admission, "nits do stupid **** all the time". Only when it fits whatever narrative you wanna sell.
I exaggerated on that statement. People are more likely to bluff when there are chops or very scary boards and tend to underbluff when they raise the river on super dry boards like A6672r.
Also there is a big difference if you consider how previous actions narrow our opponent's hands, just as an example, my only aggro action on that 88 hand was a small cbet, which he called with any2, so his pre-flop calling range is likely to be the same as his flop calling range = super wide. Now if I open UTG, villain calls from the SB, I bet bet and bet, his river range will be way more tighter than his pre-flop calling range.
I exaggerated on that statement. People are more likely to bluff when there are chops or very scary boards and tend to underbluff when they raise the river on super dry boards like A6672r.
Also there is a big difference if you consider how previous actions narrow our opponent's hands, just as an example, my only aggro action on that 88 hand was a small cbet, which he called with any2, so his pre-flop calling range is likely to be the same as his flop calling range = super wide. Now if I open UTG, villain calls from the SB, I bet bet and bet, his river range will be way more tighter than his pre-flop calling range.
Got owned sooo hard recently at 200z, probably still positive because of extreme luckboxing skills. It seems I was right, I can only beat that stake when there are some serious whales in the pool. At least I'm confident I can beat 100z, will keep playing both stakes, going where there are more whales, if I lose a lot of BI at 200z, risking my bankroll, I'll stick to 100z for a while.
Some hands
H1: I could see this as a good play vs a reg, but vs a fish it's terrible, played it super ******ed in there. Vs a reg, donking range OTT is fine and OTR fine too as well, since I'll have more Kx OTT and OTR I have some straights looking for a valuebet
H1: I could see this as a good play vs a reg, but vs a fish it's terrible, played it super ******ed in there. Vs a reg, donking range OTT is fine and OTR fine too as well, since I'll have more Kx OTT and OTR I have some straights looking for a valuebet
Rest assured its terrible against anyone. If you did have more Kx on turn, which you don't, you shouldn't be betting it for that lol sizing, and you definitely shouldn't be overbet jamming on that river. Your line and logic make no sense at all. lawl.
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H2: vs quasselinho, just a cooler imo, I think he will never fold AK there. Or am I wrong?
I'm curious where you picked up this ******ed turn donking range from, or is it your own creative little idea? Seems to be working out well, how many stacks you punted off with this advanced strat? I'm sure quasselihno doesn't mind you paying his rent though.
2x pot jamming into 2 people is just sooo strong, love making those plays haha
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Rest assured its terrible against anyone. If you did have more Kx on turn, which you don't, you shouldn't be betting it for that lol sizing, and you definitely shouldn't be overbet jamming on that river. Your line and logic make no sense at all. lawl.
knew you were going to love H1 lol
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I'm curious where you picked up this ******ed turn donking range from, or is it your own creative little idea? Seems to be working out well, how many stacks you punted off with this advanced strat? I'm sure quasselihno doesn't mind you paying his rent though.
H3. Awful.
Count down to busto.
sauce's videos ofc! Donking is good in some spots where your range gets a boost in equity and villains will check back a lot.
As is not a slam dunk card for your range where you should start leading fwiw.
Might want to get a solver if you haven't yet?
Have only 3h/day for poker, I have more fun playing.
When playing vs people at 200z realized some guys are big into solvers, saw a lot of weird lines by them. One day i will start working with them
You have to get the basics down some way, using Flopzilla with a good set of preset ranges is reasonably quick as well.
Thinking you have 59% and picking a line for it when you really have 49% is a disaster. You only need a little work to get decent at guessing. Thinking As takes you into a substantial range v range lead in that spot is indicative of you not having ran many spots in an equity calculator. It's waaay off.
You have to get the basics down some way, using Flopzilla with a good set of preset ranges is reasonably quick as well.
Thinking you have 59% and picking a line for it when you really have 49% is a disaster. You only need a little work to get decent at guessing. Thinking As takes you into a substantial range v range lead in that spot is indicative of you not having ran many spots in an equity calculator. It's waaay off.
thx for the ideas, man, yeah, if it would be an offsuit ace, would it be fine?
In these donking spots I'm mostly using my gut feeling, which is likely to be wrong. Meh, but in a vacuum it's a good move vs quasselinho, he hates to fold, specially vs me. I have flopzilla, but don't use it much, would prefer watching RIO videos over that. But I've watched a lot of PIO videos in RIO, those were the ones I made my priority. In the end, most of my plays are based on some exploit, but overall I try to avoid going too far, like quasselinho does.
Played today, still getting owned lol
Some hands
H1: vs fish, meh, not sure about this one. Is it ok to call flop planning on folding turns? His range looks so much like big pairs. OTT it's fine, right?
Turn:(50.5 BB, 2 players) K Hero checks, CO bets 29 BB, Hero raises to 86.4 BB and is all-in, CO calls 33.9 BB and is all-in
River:(176.3 BB, 2 players) K
Spoiler:
Hero shows Q 9 (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
(Pre 59%, Flop 74%, Turn 80%) CO shows T J (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 41%, Flop 26%, Turn 20%) Hero wins 174.93 BB
H2: the bad thing of being a station is that I quit avoiding losing my stack in these spots, villain was brazillian unknown though =(
Ez fold OTT imo, gotta have more discipline
Agree with all of what Salmo says. It's all well and good saying your strategies are based on exploiting over/under folds from the population or whatever, but if you don't know what correct strategy looks like, and you're trying to exploitatatively deviate from correct strategy, then it's kinda just clicking buttons.
Dom Nitsche speaks a lot about this in his Joe Ingram podcast, for anyone interested.
Agree with all of what Salmo says. It's all well and good saying your strategies are based on exploiting over/under folds from the population or whatever, but if you don't know what correct strategy looks like, and you're trying to exploitatatively deviate from correct strategy, then it's kinda just clicking buttons.
Dom Nitsche speaks a lot about this in his Joe Ingram podcast, for anyone interested.
It's not like I'm a super 3-bet monkey like the other explo guys in the pool, from the explo players, I'm probably the one with the most solid approach to the game when it comes to theory. As an example: quasselinho will show with a range that is 100% bluffs or 100% value in some spots, while I try to have at least a reasonable proportion between them, like 80% value and 20% bluffs, or 80% bluffs and 20% value.
Vs fish ofc it's fine to go 100%, but vs regs I try not to overdo it. I have also a reasonable idea of what parts of my range should be doing at a given spot and think a lot about my range rather than my hand.