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05-19-2018 , 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123

H1: vs special person haha. OTT it's already quite bad and I don't think villain will valuebet AQ there, I was between x/f or bet turn and jam river, because he was a passive station. But thought that there were tons of rivers where I couldn't get enough value, and that it would be quite thin, meh. x/c is the play ofc vs competent people

So, let me get this straight. You were torn between the 2 worst options and did not even consider the best option of betting turn, and xf river? lawl.

H4. This is probably the only hand I have ever seen you play well. Usually you do something stupid like xj turn, Although even when you post a decent hand there was still some comedy. You labelled villain a 'tight reg' yet he called a 3bet with JTo, floated you with air, and then bluffed off his stack. Those reads lawl.
05-19-2018 , 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
So, let me get this straight. You were torn between the 2 worst options and did not even consider the best option of betting turn, and xf river? lawl.

H4. This is probably the only hand I have ever seen you play well. Usually you do something stupid like xj turn, Although even when you post a decent hand there was still some comedy. You labelled villain a 'tight reg' yet he called a 3bet with JTo, floated you with air, and then bluffed off his stack. Those reads lawl.
is 20/17 loose? lol
I had a lot of hands on him, so he is a reg. A tight reg
People tilt and do stupid **** all the time, even nits haha
05-19-2018 , 01:20 PM
If the tight regs are so out of line against you just imagine what the rest of them are doing.
05-19-2018 , 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
If the tight regs are so out of line against you just imagine what the rest of them are doing.
x/f turns obviously haha

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 121.23 BB
Hero (BB): 106.5 BB
UTG: 48.37 BB
MP: 197.13 BB
CO: 100.52 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5 Q 3
SB checks, Hero bets 2.96 BB, SB raises to 8.77 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, SB calls 16.23 BB

Turn: (56 BB, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets 18.09 BB, fold

Hero wins 54.63 BB
05-19-2018 , 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
People tilt and do stupid **** all the time, even nits haha
It's pretty funny how you fight to the death with people on here about this awesome read you have of someone being a nit when you make a big fold but by your own admission, "nits do stupid **** all the time". Only when it fits whatever narrative you wanna sell.
05-19-2018 , 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .isolated
It's pretty funny how you fight to the death with people on here about this awesome read you have of someone being a nit when you make a big fold but by your own admission, "nits do stupid **** all the time". Only when it fits whatever narrative you wanna sell.
I exaggerated on that statement. People are more likely to bluff when there are chops or very scary boards and tend to underbluff when they raise the river on super dry boards like A6672r.

Also there is a big difference if you consider how previous actions narrow our opponent's hands, just as an example, my only aggro action on that 88 hand was a small cbet, which he called with any2, so his pre-flop calling range is likely to be the same as his flop calling range = super wide. Now if I open UTG, villain calls from the SB, I bet bet and bet, his river range will be way more tighter than his pre-flop calling range.
05-19-2018 , 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I exaggerated on that statement. People are more likely to bluff when there are chops or very scary boards and tend to underbluff when they raise the river on super dry boards like A6672r.

Also there is a big difference if you consider how previous actions narrow our opponent's hands, just as an example, my only aggro action on that 88 hand was a small cbet, which he called with any2, so his pre-flop calling range is likely to be the same as his flop calling range = super wide. Now if I open UTG, villain calls from the SB, I bet bet and bet, his river range will be way more tighter than his pre-flop calling range.
I mean, if you say so boss...
05-19-2018 , 06:50 PM
I'd cash out a bit and buy bottled water.
05-20-2018 , 12:02 AM
My biggest hero call so far!!!

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 210.84 BB
Hero (BB): 106.2 BB
UTG: 214.36 BB
MP: 240.92 BB
CO: 398.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T K

fold, MP raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.2 BB

Flop: (4.9 BB, 2 players) K 8 2
Hero checks, MP bets 1.4 BB, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Turn: (7.69 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, MP bets 12.79 BB, Hero calls 12.79 BB

River: (33.26 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, MP bets 224.54 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 89.82 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
MP shows 6 5 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 40%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows T K (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
(Pre 60%, Flop 94%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 211.52 BB


the funny thing is that right after that made this fold vs a huge passive player. He just potted OTF, AQ no good vs 20 AFQ player lol. vaaaamooooo

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.84 BB
SB: 102.18 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 211.02 BB
MP: 53.24 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.14 BB, 2 players) J 3 A
Hero bets 1.93 BB, BTN raises to 8.72 BB, fold

BTN wins 9.5 BB
05-20-2018 , 07:14 PM
Got owned sooo hard recently at 200z, probably still positive because of extreme luckboxing skills. It seems I was right, I can only beat that stake when there are some serious whales in the pool. At least I'm confident I can beat 100z, will keep playing both stakes, going where there are more whales, if I lose a lot of BI at 200z, risking my bankroll, I'll stick to 100z for a while.

Some hands

H1: I could see this as a good play vs a reg, but vs a fish it's terrible, played it super ******ed in there. Vs a reg, donking range OTT is fine and OTR fine too as well, since I'll have more Kx OTT and OTR I have some straights looking for a valuebet

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 203.95 BB
Hero (SB): 102.58 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 260.42 BB
MP: 436.24 BB
CO: 168.63 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 4 7 6
Hero bets 2.96 BB, BB raises to 6 BB, Hero calls 3.04 BB

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 5.66 BB, BB raises to 15 BB, Hero calls 9.34 BB

River: (48 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 78.58 BB and is all-in, BB calls 76 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows 9 8 (High Card, King)
(Pre 64%, Flop 36%, Turn 23%)
BB shows 6 5 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 64%, Turn 77%)
BB wins 198.63 BB


H2: vs quasselinho, just a cooler imo, I think he will never fold AK there. Or am I wrong?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 124.25 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 118.86 BB
UTG: 1161.76 BB
MP: 147.45 BB
CO: 117.51 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, UTG calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 8 J Q
Hero checks, UTG bets 6.39 BB, Hero calls 6.39 BB

Turn: (33.77 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 10.73 BB, UTG calls 10.73 BB

River: (55.22 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 72.89 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 72.89 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 47%, Flop 4%, Turn 9%)
UTG shows 8 8 (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 53%, Flop 96%, Turn 91%)
UTG wins 199.63 BB



H3: vaaaamooooooooo

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 203.77 BB
SB: 95.01 BB
BB: 40.48 BB
Hero (UTG): 110.55 BB
MP: 907.2 BB
CO: 99.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP raises to 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 3 players) 4 8 Q
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: (28.5 BB, 3 players) 3
Hero bets 8.98 BB, MP calls 8.98 BB, CO calls 8.98 BB

River: (55.44 BB, 3 players) 5
Hero bets 92.57 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

Hero wins 54.07 BB
05-20-2018 , 08:23 PM
wtf that vamo action in h3
05-20-2018 , 08:38 PM
Lel
05-21-2018 , 12:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
H1: I could see this as a good play vs a reg, but vs a fish it's terrible, played it super ******ed in there. Vs a reg, donking range OTT is fine and OTR fine too as well, since I'll have more Kx OTT and OTR I have some straights looking for a valuebet
Rest assured its terrible against anyone. If you did have more Kx on turn, which you don't, you shouldn't be betting it for that lol sizing, and you definitely shouldn't be overbet jamming on that river. Your line and logic make no sense at all. lawl.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
H2: vs quasselinho, just a cooler imo, I think he will never fold AK there. Or am I wrong?
I'm curious where you picked up this ******ed turn donking range from, or is it your own creative little idea? Seems to be working out well, how many stacks you punted off with this advanced strat? I'm sure quasselihno doesn't mind you paying his rent though.


H3. Awful.

Count down to busto.
05-21-2018 , 02:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
wtf that vamo action in h3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick93
Lel
2x pot jamming into 2 people is just sooo strong, love making those plays haha

Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Rest assured its terrible against anyone. If you did have more Kx on turn, which you don't, you shouldn't be betting it for that lol sizing, and you definitely shouldn't be overbet jamming on that river. Your line and logic make no sense at all. lawl.
knew you were going to love H1 lol


Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
I'm curious where you picked up this ******ed turn donking range from, or is it your own creative little idea? Seems to be working out well, how many stacks you punted off with this advanced strat? I'm sure quasselihno doesn't mind you paying his rent though.


H3. Awful.

Count down to busto.
sauce's videos ofc! Donking is good in some spots where your range gets a boost in equity and villains will check back a lot.

vaaaamooooooo
05-21-2018 , 06:23 AM
Donking is king.
05-21-2018 , 10:06 AM
legend
05-21-2018 , 10:07 AM
As is not a slam dunk card for your range where you should start leading fwiw.

Might want to get a solver if you haven't yet?
05-21-2018 , 11:01 AM
The sizing is ******ed as well. less than 1/3 pot turns and over bet jamming rivers.
05-21-2018 , 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
As is not a slam dunk card for your range where you should start leading fwiw.

Might want to get a solver if you haven't yet?
Have only 3h/day for poker, I have more fun playing.
When playing vs people at 200z realized some guys are big into solvers, saw a lot of weird lines by them. One day i will start working with them
05-21-2018 , 01:28 PM
You have to get the basics down some way, using Flopzilla with a good set of preset ranges is reasonably quick as well.

Thinking you have 59% and picking a line for it when you really have 49% is a disaster. You only need a little work to get decent at guessing. Thinking As takes you into a substantial range v range lead in that spot is indicative of you not having ran many spots in an equity calculator. It's waaay off.
05-21-2018 , 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
You have to get the basics down some way, using Flopzilla with a good set of preset ranges is reasonably quick as well.

Thinking you have 59% and picking a line for it when you really have 49% is a disaster. You only need a little work to get decent at guessing. Thinking As takes you into a substantial range v range lead in that spot is indicative of you not having ran many spots in an equity calculator. It's waaay off.
thx for the ideas, man, yeah, if it would be an offsuit ace, would it be fine?
In these donking spots I'm mostly using my gut feeling, which is likely to be wrong. Meh, but in a vacuum it's a good move vs quasselinho, he hates to fold, specially vs me. I have flopzilla, but don't use it much, would prefer watching RIO videos over that. But I've watched a lot of PIO videos in RIO, those were the ones I made my priority. In the end, most of my plays are based on some exploit, but overall I try to avoid going too far, like quasselinho does.


Played today, still getting owned lol

Some hands

H1: vs fish, meh, not sure about this one. Is it ok to call flop planning on folding turns? His range looks so much like big pairs. OTT it's fine, right?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 101.85 BB
BB: 94.1 BB
Hero (UTG): 106.4 BB
MP: 101 BB
CO: 82.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 9

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP raises to 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6.68 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 3 players) 9 4 4
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB, fold

Turn: (50.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, CO bets 29 BB, Hero raises to 86.4 BB and is all-in, CO calls 33.9 BB and is all-in

River: (176.3 BB, 2 players) K
Spoiler:

Hero shows Q 9 (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
(Pre 59%, Flop 74%, Turn 80%)
CO shows T J (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 41%, Flop 26%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 174.93 BB



H2: the bad thing of being a station is that I quit avoiding losing my stack in these spots, villain was brazillian unknown though =(
Ez fold OTT imo, gotta have more discipline

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 163.07 BB
SB: 116.19 BB
BB: 113.06 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 201.31 BB
CO: 510.15 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 9

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 7 3 8
BB checks, Hero bets 1.62 BB, BB raises to 9.73 BB, Hero calls 8.12 BB

Turn: (24.6 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 23.37 BB, Hero calls 23.37 BB

River: (71.34 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 69.97 BB, Hero calls 64.58 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
BB shows 3 3 (Full House, Threes full of Queens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 73%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows Q 9 (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 51%, Flop 27%, Turn 18%)
BB wins 199.13 BB


H3: good fold, right? I block basically all bluffs lol, also villain should have a lot of AA in there and AJ

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 117.25 BB
SB: 111.37 BB
BB: 157.75 BB
UTG: 141.1 BB
MP: 116.44 BB
CO: 147.06 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, MP raises to 2.6 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BB calls 7 BB, MP calls 5.4 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 3 players) 5 8 J
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 7.71 BB, BB calls 7.71 BB, fold

Turn: (39.92 BB, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets 19.71 BB, BB raises to 142.04 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 76.84 BB


H4: How villain views poker during this hand:



How rapidesh views poker during this hand:



I think he should just fold river, it's way better to call with T7, 8c is also really bad to call with

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 101.02 BB
SB: 69.05 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 210.62 BB
MP: 50.01 BB
CO: 114.37 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB calls 1.32 BB

Flop: (5.14 BB, 2 players) 7 5 T
BB checks, Hero bets 4.4 BB, BB calls 4.4 BB

Turn: (13.93 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 14 BB, BB calls 14 BB

River: (41.93 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 80.3 BB and is all-in, BB calls 79.29 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows J 9 (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
BB shows T 8 (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 36%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 199.13 BB



H5: tough spot, meh, fish could have tons of draws, also it's better to call with this than with AA

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 24.52 BB
SB: 56.91 BB
BB: 179.95 BB
UTG: 321.71 BB
MP: 126.33 BB
Hero (CO): 103.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 6 9 T
SB checks, Hero bets 4.82 BB, SB raises to 54.59 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 49.77 BB

Turn: (114.81 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (114.81 BB, 2 players) Q
Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (114.81 BB, 2 players) J

River #2: (114.81 BB, 2 players) 2

Spoiler:
SB shows 5 9 (One Pair, Nines)
Board #1 (Pre 32%, Flop 19%, Turn 11%)
(One Pair, Nines)
Board #2 (Pre 33%, Flop 20%, Turn 12%)

Hero shows T A (One Pair, Tens)
Board #1 (Pre 68%, Flop 81%, Turn 89%)
(One Pair, Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 67%, Flop 80%, Turn 88%)

Hero wins 56.72 BB
Hero wins 56.72 BB


vaaaamoooo
05-21-2018 , 02:29 PM
H4, you really think top 2 is a fold for villain? lol
05-21-2018 , 02:42 PM
Agree with all of what Salmo says. It's all well and good saying your strategies are based on exploiting over/under folds from the population or whatever, but if you don't know what correct strategy looks like, and you're trying to exploitatatively deviate from correct strategy, then it's kinda just clicking buttons.

Dom Nitsche speaks a lot about this in his Joe Ingram podcast, for anyone interested.
05-21-2018 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
H4, you really think top 2 is a fold for villain? lol
vs a 2x pot with the club blocker, it is imo, way better to call with JTo without clubs
05-21-2018 , 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kangal_
Agree with all of what Salmo says. It's all well and good saying your strategies are based on exploiting over/under folds from the population or whatever, but if you don't know what correct strategy looks like, and you're trying to exploitatatively deviate from correct strategy, then it's kinda just clicking buttons.

Dom Nitsche speaks a lot about this in his Joe Ingram podcast, for anyone interested.
It's not like I'm a super 3-bet monkey like the other explo guys in the pool, from the explo players, I'm probably the one with the most solid approach to the game when it comes to theory. As an example: quasselinho will show with a range that is 100% bluffs or 100% value in some spots, while I try to have at least a reasonable proportion between them, like 80% value and 20% bluffs, or 80% bluffs and 20% value.

Vs fish ofc it's fine to go 100%, but vs regs I try not to overdo it. I have also a reasonable idea of what parts of my range should be doing at a given spot and think a lot about my range rather than my hand.

      
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